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this is what happens when you wear an ipod.

what is it that you find so interesting about that scene exactly?

Actually the main message of the film is what stuck in my mind, I watched it when I was in secondary school and didn't see much difference between the tactics of the warders in Scum and how my school was run, and also the way that the prisoners willingly submitted to their "authority" despite outnumbering and in some cases outwitting the neanderthals in charge. It is brilliant allegory, not just for the pissed off schoolkid but also the pissed off adult. On the other hand, there will always be people like you who just watch films for the fight/rape scenes,

Grim isn't it, I think it's the best anti-war film I've seen though and should be required viewing for everyone, especially the naive video-game generation who think war is a barrel of laughs, or even the people in the military who drop bombs on people from 30,000 feet or fire missiles from a drone literally controlled by a joystick from an office in the USA who are totally detached from the realities of what they are doing. Some of the scenes had me imagining the sheer terror of what it must have felt like to be a civilian in Belgrade, Dresden or Baghdad when the bombs started falling, letalone Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The fact the conflict starts in Iran really hits home the importance and relevance of the message when you look at whats going on in the news headlines today aswell. People were crapping themselves about nuclear war in the 1980's but now we've got political commentators actively calling for the first-strike use of nuclear weapons against Iran and nobody gives a shit. There is an american film from around the same time called "The Day After" and it doesn't even come close to threads in its realism. I watched "The War Game" after threads and it was a bit of a relief frankly because the 1965 sensibilities and production values made it a bit more light hearted, even though it's still quite a grim film.

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Alan Clarkes "Scum", another classic british film, it had a huge impact on me the first time I saw it as a kid.

It's an old german tuner, you choose the note with the bit at the top and blow into it to generate the tone.

Everyone knows that the most important aspect of any musical instrument is what it looks like. For example, here is a track I was working on the other day, fucking cool isn't it?

They write automated spiders to trawl sites intelligently and collect info, infact they will pay coders (often eastern europeans heh) to write bots to target specific sites.

Agreed, seems an odd thing to make up, leak to the press with attribution just to face 5 years of disciplinary proceedings...

As I said, I wouldn't dream of taking a child to see that violent, soul destroying trash - and the decent people I know who have kids of that age themselves wouldn't dream of it either. Maybe you just don't know any better yourself eh? Maybe if you didn't expose your kid to violent computer games and films like batman he wouldn't have the urge to "stick a fucking pencil" in someones eye. I guess that just comes from the wonderful family values you're passing onto him eh?

Yeah well if you think it's a good idea to let your 11 year old kid watch a film that glorifies violence, executions, crime and retribution as a form of entertainment, fair enough. Then again you yourself own a fucking playstation 3 innit, so god knows what kind of socially reprehensible values your kid is being indoctrinated with whilst in your care, when his dad spends his off hours playing GTA or some hideously violent FPS game. Spare me the pious "how daer u" bullshit, if you "will be the judge" of what your son can watch and understand then maybe you should think a bit harder about what you expose him to.

you should clean that white guitar it looks like some ned toy has tagged it.

incase any of you twits doubt me, I do actually own this, and I took this picture.

I need to add aswell that I think Threads sets a standard for political film-making that really hasn't been bettered in the 24 years since it was shown on tv. It's brutal, frank, and unapologetic in a way that you just simply will never see in film today due to the way the industry works.

Threads is a film everyone who grew up in the 80's ought to be able to identify with, I vaguely remembered seeing a bit of it or hearing mention of it as a kid, so I bought a copy quite recently (along with several other nuclear war themed films from that era) thinking it would be a cheesy secondary-school style documentary that might be a bit of a laugh and remind me of my childhood days. As it happens it's the only film I've ever watched that I can honestly say I found genuinely frightening.

Threads (1984) (TV) is one of my favourite films, it would probably rank somewhere in the top 5 but I wouldn't say I enjoyed watching it.

Oh right, I didn't realise when you said "back up your point of view" you meant "offer a capitulation which justifies your (alkalines) point of view." So in that case, no, certainly not, I stand by everything I've said in this thread.

As I suspected none of the films mentioned so far are anywhere my top 10.

There is more btw.

In reverse order my top ten films of all time are as follows : 10 : The Batman (1943) 09 : Batman the Movie (1966) 08 : Batgirl (1967) 07 : Batman (1989) 06 : Batman Returns (1992) 05 : Batman Forever (1995) 04 : Batman & Robin (1997) 03 : Return to the Batcave (2003) 02 : Batman Begins (2005) 01 : Batman The Dark Knight (2008)

I went into exodus once, and once was enough.

Ah yeah I'm forgetting people like you enjoy sitting in a huge cinema surrounded by popcorn munching twits for so many hours where your attention is solely devoted to watching "the film". Those of us who live in the 21st century however are more used to watching films in 1/4 of the screen while carrying on with other activities, perhaps that goes some way to explaining why you still take cheap entertainment like this so seriously.

You're wrong there.

i just told you, i watched it in order to understand what it is that people are buying into, in the wider cultural context. I haven't seen so much hype around a film in ages. You should try and get out more instead of deluding yourself into thinking people like me give a fuck about people like you.

Who fucking cares what films I consider to be great? If you want an excuse to have a go at me just resort to calling me a cock or a tosser etc like everyone else here does in the absence of an actual considered, thoughtful counteropinion.