Flash@TMB Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 BTW just for the record I like Lost and if I recall correctly they peform a track also called Lost (please correct me if I'm wrong) which I particularily like. So my plan is to wait until we have our new monitors fitted then invite them back, which hopefully they'll want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkt Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Before you go shooting off at the mouth again dude i wasn't suggesting that the venue was at fault here either.....Now from my point of view i was only gonna attend this gig to see Lost so by them not appearing you have lost my custom that night and probably those who i was gonna attend with. Now i know you're attitude will be 'so what' date=' its just one guy and his pissy mates' but it is after all customers that keep bars and clubs running.Also read my post on your soundchecks policy.Cheers[/quote']so you was just coming out to see your mates then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkt Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I don't think soundchecks are necessary at moorings anyway. I havent been able to fault the sound of any band that has played the moorings without a soundcheck. compare that to kef...bands spend like 20 mins soundchecking and have nothing to show for it cos it still sounds shit.As Flash said, Silence in the Streets used all their own backlin, spent 10 mins sorting their levels out and played one of the best sounding sets ive heard in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 so you was just coming out to see your mates then?Actually i wasn't, i'm not sure that i know anyone in Lost, they are just on the list of bands i would like to check out to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulscoconutass Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 By that same measure it shouldn't take a really good band with a really good sound more then 30 seconds to check.Why shouldn't they? If any band's had any proper practicing they'd already have all their levels sorted out and It should just be a case of makin' sure all their equipment has made it to the venue in working order. After that it'd just be saying which instruments you need in specific monitors, although if there's other bands on before it's probably best leaving that 'til you've played your first song/intro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkt Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Actually i wasn't' date=' i'm not sure that i know anyone in Lost, they are just on the list of bands i would like to check out to be honest. [/quote']Nah it was a stupid comment on my part. I was just gonna change it so sorry. But it is your loss if you miss out on Hi-Tech Jet and Driving on the Right.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 But it is your loss if you miss out on Hi-Tech Jet and Driving on the Right..this is very true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 nobody's interested then?did i word it wrong?should i have tried to start an argument?is this punk?support your local scene!down with democracy.. and such..ha!just realised it worked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 ha!just realised it worked... I was sitting here completely gutted about something and you've just made me piss myself laughing...thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Rico's career options...: Stand up comedian and or clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I was sitting here completely gutted about something and you've just made me piss myself laughing...thanks you should probably go and clean that up.... before someone sees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 ah... once again the mighty rainbow 'power poster' princess beats me to a replywhyiouttakickyourasssomuchgrumbleyousonofagrumblegrumble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 It's because I'm ace.youcanmutterinsultsunderyourbreathasmuchasyouwantbutyou'llnevergiveasgoodinsultsasdoveorbeascoolasme... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Why shouldn't they? If any band's had any proper practicing they'd already have all their levels sorted out and It should just be a case of makin' sure all their equipment has made it to the venue in working order. After that it'd just be saying which instruments you need in specific monitors' date=' although if there's other bands on before it's probably best leaving that 'til you've played your first song/intro.[/quote']so mic levels between different singers dont come into it. Differentl levels between guitars dont mean much, if this is true why do professional bands take hours sometimes getting the sound right before a gig, by what you are saying they shlould just turn up and be ready to go, never mind spending the best part of a day setting up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 after hearing different stories on this i think flash and co did the right thing to be honest. any band who demands anything from anywhere should be on their bike. Dont demand kids, ask it will do more good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 so mic levels between different singers dont come into it. Differentl levels between guitars dont mean much' date=' if this is true why do professional bands take hours sometimes getting the sound right before a gig, by what you are saying they shlould just turn up and be ready to go, never mind spending the best part of a day setting up.[/quote']Dude, i wouldn't bother. Some people are so set in there ways and are just on a big back slapping spree with Flash and the moorings that it just ain't worth voicing your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 usually because they have to setup everything.... large venues for example are usually conference halls or sporting arenasso a lengthly soundcheck is required because all of the equipment has to be put together, tested and used on the same dayto be honest...i dont fully understand what's going oni personally have no problems with the moorings soundcheckin policythere's a very good reason for itand the people who have somekind of serious problem with it are in a minoritythe battle of the bands at the loft in december had no soundchecks- for any of the heats - or the finaland everyone used the same equipmentand to be fair... there was no real issue with the soundand there are plenty of other venues like that in this countryand probably all over the worldNone of you guys are big time rock stars yetwhen you arei'm sure you'll be allowed to soundcheck to your hearts contentbut a working venue with loads of different bands playing all the time doesnt really need this kind of hassle now does it?you should be happy that the moorings puts in the effort that it does to let bands playjust because it's not how you would do itdoesnt mean it doesnt workand this conversationlike many othersis getting boringall i wantis for people to come and see Hitechjet and Driving on the Rightcos they're good bandswho are travelling all the way up to aberdeen to play and i reckon some of you guys might really like themaus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Dude' date=' i wouldn't bother. Some people are so set in there ways and are just on a big back slapping spree with Flash and the moorings that it just ain't worth voicing your opinion. [/quote']that's complete shite by the waydo you really feel that hard done by?get a grip soncome to the gigif it's rubbish then come up and tell me about iti'll be more than willing to listen to your opinionand take your ideas into account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 so have i been mislead for the last 5-10 years, when i was told you should always sound check before a gig, cause here i am being told they are pointless. Why sound check you should always know your sound and should know exactly how to set up for each venue before you come in, and for the 4 places youve never stepped foor in yet. This isnt a go at flash (or rico cause hes loverly he is) but rather just to point out how stupid that theory really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 nah dude... points over hereyou're over there...soundchecks are not pointlessbut in this particular cicumstance i.e. gigs at the mooringsthey are not essential- what this means isyou do not have to have a soundcheck in order to sound goodand the setup at the moorings means that they are not mandatory and you can sound absolutely wonderful with a quick line check - assuming you know how to work your amp!this is not a sweeping statement for all venuesjust this venue in particular(in my humble opinion - ghost of bongo sounded ace the other night - and they got the same treatment as everybody else) (that rant above wasnt aimed at you either btw.. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Bottom line is the better your band are at tuning/playing/setting up your shit then the better you'll sound at the Moorings.Anyways this can go in the soundcheck thread non?This is supposed to be about the gig on Saturday - we'll see if the touring bands want to soundcheck and then we'll see what they sound like if it's just a line check.I'm sure the results will speak for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I'm sure the results will speak for themselves.end result = i get slagged off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 damm it i hate it when i end up over there, its always so much darker, anyway thank you for pointing that out to me rico, now i can come back into the light......Im gona leave this now cause i dont think this will help. I do agree rico that its not always nessesary i was in point of origin for christ sakes if we ever soundchecked it was cause we were made to......but i know what your saying it maybe isnt needed all the time, but for someone to say you never should need a should check ever is silly,(oh yeah this rant was aimed at you )xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 so have i been mislead for the last 5-10 years' date=' when i was told you should always sound check before a gig, cause here i am being told they are pointless. Why sound check you should always know your sound and should know exactly how to set up for each venue before you come in, and for the 4 places youve never stepped foor in yet. This isnt a go at flash (or rico cause hes loverly he is) but rather just to point out how stupid that theory really is.[/quote']The main reason for soundcheck is to make sure all the lines are working ok, and get a rough balance of sound on a PA rig you have just set-up in a room the engineer doesnt usually know.I have been all round Europe doing this with many different bands, and yes a soundcheck is a must do thing. Not only to Eq the Rig for the room, see what it will sound like when the band plays and set-up the monitors.In the Moorings the PA Has been set-up, I know what it will sound like and the Monitors are roughly right for most bands and very easy to alter if needed.The PA WILL reproduce the sound set on the amp, and a well rehearsed band will know the sound they want. So all that is left to do is get the levels correct on stage and the FOH will do the rest.There is really no reason to do a full soundcheck in a venue with an Installed PA and Digital desk. The settings are usually very close from one band to another.Please come and talk to Me or Flash (we dont bite) if you want to talk about it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkt Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 usually because they have to setup everything.... large venues for example are usually conference halls or sporting arenasso a lengthly soundcheck is required because all of the equipment has to be put together' date=' tested and used on the same dayto be honest...i dont fully understand what's going oni personally have no problems with the moorings soundcheckin policythere's a very good reason for itand the people who have somekind of serious problem with it are in a minoritythe battle of the bands at the loft in december had no soundchecks- for any of the heats - or the finaland everyone used the same equipmentand to be fair... there was no real issue with the soundand there are plenty of other venues like that in this countryand probably all over the worldNone of you guys are big time rock stars yetwhen you arei'm sure you'll be allowed to soundcheck to your hearts contentbut a working venue with loads of different bands playing all the time doesnt really need this kind of hassle now does it?you should be happy that the moorings puts in the effort that it does to let bands playjust because it's not how you would do itdoesnt mean it doesnt workand this conversationlike many othersis getting boringall i wantis for people to come and see Hitechjet and Driving on the Rightcos they're good bandswho are travelling all the way up to aberdeen to play and i reckon some of you guys might really like themaus.[/quote']well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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