Elvis walks to the title of 1000th Uk Number 1

[Michael MacLennan]

Just like John Lennon who beat up his wife. Still' date=' the thread is about music[/quote']

No way, you're onto the main point. If someone's a complete prick, should you still respect their musical output? ie Gary Glitter's a paedo, does his music suddenly become worse? Can you separate the music from the man? If Wacko Jacko is found to be a paedo, should we all pretend we don't like 'Thriller'? Come ON HOG!

[Jammer]

Sid Vicious, Jackson Browne, James Brown, Ike Turner, Jerry Lee Lewis, Phil Spector, Jim Morrison etc etc etc

oh yea and

Eric Clapton (racist ramblings in the 70s)

Lemmy (Nazi memomrabilia)

Queen, Rod Stewart and Status Quo played Sun City

etc etc etc

Rock stars are generally fucked up and do bad things but if pursue the goody good images like Cliff they are ridiculed too.

This thread has really went off on one. Oh how happy and innocent us music people are

[Guest Zeenat Aman]

No way' date=' you're onto the main point. If someone's a complete prick, should you still respect their musical output?[/quote']

Yes, despie someone being "a complete prick" they can still produce amazing music... Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, the list goes on and on.

[Swingin' Ryan]

Just like John Lennon who beat up his wife. Still' date=' the thread is about music[/quote']

Exactly,Lennon took far more drugs than Elvis ever did and despite having the opportunity to write all his own music, only ever managed to write 2 good songs without McCartney.

As for Elvis being a bad guy, it's complete shit.

Watch video's of Elvis jamming with his band, he had the upmost respect for all of them. He also did more for race relations and unity than Lennon could ever dream of. Lennon kicked back in a bed with Yoko Ono thinking that would save the world, while Elvis spent years of his career being slated as a "disgusting and lude performer" just because he sang and danced like he was black and he shook his hips a bit. Elvis had to work for his place in history, Lennon and the Beatles banged out mum-friendly pop music and record execs were sucking their cocks almost instantly.

Elvis also once bought brand new cadillacs for everyone in the surrounding area of the car showroom who wanted one and when a radio reporter quipped whilst reporting the story "If you're listening Elivs, mines a black Sedan", Elvis had one outside his door before the broadcast was over. Elvis felt so humbled and so guilty about the money he made, it's what drove him over the edge eventually.

Elvis was a good guy who made good music and it's great that people still acknowledge that, it's a credit to 21st century society that people can still appreciate what Elvis did. It's not "pretentious" or" sentimental", it's proof. Elvis made better music then than people are making today, and next to Sinatra, had more talent than any recorded musician in history, whether he wrote his songs or not. That's why Elvis is number one today.

[Cloud]

What amuses me is because the Manics lost out to Elvis by 5000 copies, Manics fans everywhere are calling Elvis an untalented twat and all the rest of it. I'm not an Elvis fan, but it's a safe bet to say that he's far more of a popular musician than the Manics ever will be.

I don't see why they're moaning, personally - Lifeblood has shifted less than 60,000 copies, so to get two #2 singles off it is still commendable, even with the amount of cynical ploys they employed.

[Jammer]

Exactly' date='Lennon took far more drugs than Elvis ever did and despite having the opportunity to write all his own music, only ever managed to write 2 good songs without McCartney.

As for Elvis being a bad guy, it's complete shit.

Watch video's of Elvis jamming with his band, he had the upmost respect for all of them. He also did more for race relations and unity than Lennon could ever dream of. Lennon kicked back in a bed with Yoko Ono thinking that would save the world, while Elvis spent years of his career being slated as a "disgusting and lude performer" just because he sang and danced like he was black and he shook his hips a bit. Elvis had to work for his place in history, Lennon and the Beatles banged out mum-friendly pop music and record execs were sucking their cocks almost instantly.

Elvis also once bought brand new cadillacs for everyone in the surrounding area of the car showroom who wanted one and when a radio reporter quipped whilst reporting the story "If you're listening Elivs, mines a black Sedan", Elvis had one outside his door before the broadcast was over. Elvis felt so humbled and so guilty about the money he made, it's what drove him over the edge eventually.

Elvis was a good guy who made good music and it's great that people still acknowledge that, it's a credit to 21st century society that people can still appreciate what Elvis did. It's not "pretentious" or" sentimental", it's proof. Elvis made better music then than people are making today, and next to Sinatra, had more talent than any recorded musician in history, whether he wrote his songs or not. That's why Elvis is number one today.[/quote']

What a pile of pants. Elvis had a great influence on music and it's a pity you've made such a crass and uneducated rant on the back of this "wonderful 1000th No 1" achievement.

- "Lennon took more drugs than Elvis" - on what evidence? Elvis was popping vast amounts of pills on a daily basis from his "friendly" doctor. He was a zombie.

- "Lennon only wrote two decent songs"...utter rubbish you're maybe mixing him up with Elvis who couldn't write.

- "Elvis had to work for his place in history, Lennon and the Beatles banged out mum-friendly pop music and record execs were sucking their cocks almost instantl "

Firstly, The Bealtes worked their way to the top through hundreds of crap gigs and thanks to the sterile void created by the lack of cutting edge music 1959-1962 took the place by storm and ketp on going.

As for the mum friendly swipe. Again I think you got that mixed up with Elvis who is/was the housewifes favorite and had such a sycophantic bunch of hangers on, he didn't know what planet he was on let alone excersizing any quality control. I really can't think of any Elvis song apart from his initial recordings that could be in any way described as experimental, dangerous or fresh. His career was mismanaged and the majority of his output is bland and formulaic.

One little stat for you on Number ones:

The Beatles 1962-1970 - 17 number ones from 25 single releases

Elvis 1956-2005 - 19 number ones from 130 plus single releases including a "remix"

[Guest Zeenat Aman]

Going back to nullmouse's thing about relevance...

I think it is relevant for Elvis to be number one in the charts, as it is showing a current and ongoing trend within the music industry. That of re-issues and the public's continuing fascination with music of the past.