Guest neil ex Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 GOFONES are musical geniuses and none of us know music theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stripey Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Originally posted by neil ex ...you could argue that you become a better musician and get more out of playing music that way You just answered the question yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 i suppose you work music theory out yourselfyou have to really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 I don't think it can do any harm... It's kind of like having an instruction manual. Knowing the theory won't necessarily make you any more creative, but it does help if you know why A minor works so well in C, or the best chord to play after a D7 or whatever. I don't see how it takes the fun out of music as long as you use it as guidelines and not rules.Any writer can have a really good story, but you can write a better book if you know about good grammar and vocabulary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Music theory helped me immensely. I learnt it myself and enjoy it, and it's damn useful in knowing certain things.I enjoy talking about it and finding out new things for myself, and anyone who says "geek" or "it takes the fun out of music" is clearly a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pop-notmyface Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 i'm studying music theory right now as i have a lot of work to catch up for higher music.it can be quite complicated at times, but then again, also makes sense very often. apart from all those italian terms...i was wondering the same thing as well recently, but i think its a good way of actually understanding what you listen to all the time. and its also very helpful when writing songs, so they make more "sense" musically and not sound like a random bunch of chords or other garnage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 I barely know how to tune my guitar, I know fuck all theory but I should learn! I like to think that this helps in creating your own style but to a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Originally posted by pop-notmyface i'm studying music theory right now as i have a lot of work to catch up for higher music.it can be quite complicated at times, but then again, also makes sense very often. apart from all those italian terms...i was wondering the same thing as well recently, but i think its a good way of actually understanding what you listen to all the time. and its also very helpful when writing songs, so they make more "sense" musically and not sound like a random bunch of chords or other garnage. hmmm, i did higher music aswell, and i did inventing at advanced higher level in 6th yearhigher music isn't really anything to do with writing good music, it's just you write music to pass an exam, that's why i didn't really like it. it's like someone would hand in a peice for the teacher to mark and the teacher might say to put in a chord change and that someone would put in the chord change regardless of whether they thought the song needed a chord change or not, i think hardly anyone in my class wrote music because they wanted to write music, just that they wanted to get an extra higher, which is fine really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pop-notmyface Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 im not exactly content with the music i write in class, cos i need to tune it to my teachers expectations.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by Philip Johnston Learning music theory will not affect your creativity in a negative way, but can open you up to lots of other options that you wouldn't have previously known about! I'll second that,I'm seriously thinking about getting to know about all this theory business... though I must say it didn't stop me from writing a mega 80's synth piece last night... Steve says it'll buy my ranch.But yeah, I don't think it affects your creativity, but I think it helps you get your desired result faster... though I personally don't think all the structured, "this sounds good with that" things are a pile of bollocks, some of the best sounding pieces I've heard have been made with the most bizarre combinations of notes and chords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Knowing theory definitely helps. Since i learned about music theory, most of my riffs end up in weird scales and modes, such as the hungarian minor (basically harmonic minor with a #4 as well) and spanish phrygian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Double Jack Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 I know very little about music theory, but for some reason I can find what sounds right. I wish I had the patience to learn some (it might improve my guitar playing cos i'm shit at it according to some people!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by Bob Double Jack (it might improve my guitar playing cos i'm shit at it according to some people!). was that a dig at me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Double Jack Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 no, just a bit of fun, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Learning music theory was one of the best things i ever did! It helped my writting and my playing loads cause you learn about all the interesting chords you could use instead of the chords which just fall into a pattern. Plus, if you know theory, then you can write down what you wanna play and other people can play it without you having to teach it to them bar per bar.xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Originally posted by Porter Learning music theory was one of the best things i ever did! It helped my writting and my playing loads cause you learn about all the interesting chords you could use instead of the chords which just fall into a pattern. Plus, if you know theory, then you can write down what you wanna play and other people can play it without you having to teach it to them bar per bar.xxx But thats half the charm of what I write, it makes fuck all sense to anyone else."Line 2 - insert fucked up programme 5 in a random manner, and use heavy modulation"that makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 yeah, it is cool to have music that only makes sence to you but then again if your wanting to do like higher music or something it really does help to be able to write down what your playing. And plus, just cause you have a skill like theory, doesn't mean you have to use it all the time, its just nice to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Originally posted by Porter yeah, it is cool to have music that only makes sence to you but then again if your wanting to do like higher music or something it really does help to be able to write down what your playing. And plus, just cause you have a skill like theory, doesn't mean you have to use it all the time, its just nice to have. I guess so, I really should learn some theory. It's hell transferring my info to anyone else.It's like"this key, then this key, then you modulate like this... and switch to this programme and press this, and this... etc" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Yeah, i totally agree! it gets even harder when you bring in instruments such as sax and trumpets which are in totally different clefs to the guitar, thats the main reason i learned theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 i just use my ears and i'm better at music than all of you anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartmaxwell Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 he is you knowGOFONES material proves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Me and my girlfriend have a lot of fun transposing stuff from piano to guitar and working around the limitations and advantages of both instruments when we can. It's like sex for us, without the crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmygoodein Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 its a way of understanding what you play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...mole... Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 i myself know very little music theory. but when i look at music theory stuff i get the grasp of it very easily i suppose i should get round to learning it properly someday.i just cant be bothered atm i just use my ears and listen to what sounds good then play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 GOFONES go by things that sound good before things that are technically right. GOFONES beleive that learning music theory actually enhances stupidity, therefore making the idiot even more dumb. GOFONES say by learning music theory, you get into a habit of trying to work out things that work, rather than experimenting and listening. GOFONES will bite your balls off, you ignoramass. Look at The Strokes, I bet you they all know music theory. That's why they play predictable music. Instead of mucking about on his guitar, the guy goes, 'oh a C and an E and a G will work here' and he writes it down next to a treble clef ,whatever, then he'll play it and think to himself 'it's ok, but I can't think of anything that will go better, wait, I'll try playing it in a different sequence', then he'll find something that's slightly better and say to himself, 'oh that's a bit better, it's still not great, but i can't think of anything else, i'll go check in my music theory book', then he checks in his music theory book and sees that a D will work aswell, so he tries adding a D but can't get anything good, mainly because he's lost his ear for music, but he still has it a little bit, he then says to himself, 'oh I'll just stick with that bit I came up with because my music theory book says nothing else will work, and my music theory book says 'dischords are strictly forbidden in pop music''.There's some music theory for you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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