Metarie Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Quite rightly aswell. It's nothing to do with "terroritory invaded" or a perception of the woman as being "dirty and used" (where did you get that from, hollyoaks?), it's about trust, respect and common human decency. It always makes me laugh when women talk about being promiscuous/sexually aggressive as if it's some kind of empowering post-feminist statement. It's just sad and a sign of deep-seated insecurity imo.No, I didn't get it from Hollyoaks, I got it from a number of male friends who have been cheated on and their reactions to it. And no...they don't watch Hollyoaks.Gah, I had a reply but it just got more and more long winded so I deleted it.Basic point: Ignorance is bliss. Your partners sexual life before you isn't something a lot of people want to dwell on, so to have to deal with your lovers sex life with someone else, while they're still with you is horrific to me. Couldn't do it, I would not be able to deal well. However, I know myself well enough that even if I'd had my heart broken by someone I loved, I would still try my damnedest to make it work. The fact that you've got 'promiscuous' and 'sexually aggressive' from my post just confirms my theory. I wouldn't describe myself as either and I don't think many people would to be honest, but you've basically aligned sexual openness with sleeping around, and they are two very different things. You can talk about anything in the world, but it doesn't mean you're doing it.What about men who are sexually aggressive or sleep around? Is that sad as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 What about men who are sexually aggressive or sleep around? Is that sad as well?Yes, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 However, I know myself well enough that even if I'd had my heart broken by someone I loved, I would still try my damnedest to make it work. I.E be a gullible doormat. The fact that you've got 'promiscuous' and 'sexually aggressive' from my post just confirms my theory. I wouldn't describe myself as either and I don't think many people would to be honest' date=' but you've basically aligned sexual openness with sleeping around, and they are two very different things. You can talk about anything in the world, but it doesn't mean you're doing it.[/quote']What I was getting at is that there a lot of women who sleep around because the fact they are female and men want to sleep with them is the only thing they can derive any confidence or sense of worth from. What about men who are sexually aggressive or sleep around? Is that sad as well?Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I.E be a gullible doormat. Er, no, I believe that's called being in love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Er, no, I believe that's called being in love.Well whatever it is sounds quite unhealthy if it involves appeasing a cheating partner. Sounds more like dependency to me. Only kids "fall in love" anyway. "Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 . Only kids "fall in love" anyway.BEST. POST. EVER.You, sir, are a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavH Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Well whatever it is sounds quite unhealthy if it involves appeasing a cheating partner. Sounds more like dependency to me. Only kids "fall in love" anyway.BEST. POST. EVER.You, sir, are a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Poor old Justin...he's only got belief left, everything else has gone away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neutral Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Wow, I was told just before my 2nd stage job interview that she didn't break up with me when she went with the other guy because i was her "fallback plan"(after 3.5 years) how bloody ace Stripey has it exactly right it is about trust, respect and decency. If a woman/man cheats on you guys, do not take her/him back, no matter how much you think you love her, just gain happiness in the fact that she is likely to do it to the other guy too, that you could have been hurt a lot worse and that there are women/men out there who will treat you better.Don't cheat, because you are better than that!Anyway since then things have improved remarkably.1. Have a new well paid salaried job2. Prospect of a higher paid salaried job abroad coupled with the chance of learning a trade which has been in the family for generations3. Seeing a girl I have known for a long time in a few daysThanks for the words of support and adviceStay mellowM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Wow, I was told just before my 2nd stage job interview that she didn't break up with me when she went with the other guy because i was her "fallback plan"(after 3.5 years) how bloody ace Stripey has it exactly right it is about trust, respect and decency. If a woman/man cheats on you guys, do not take her/him back, no matter how much you think you love her, just gain happiness in the fact that she is likely to do it to the other guy too, that you could have been hurt a lot worse and that there are women/men out there who will treat you better.Don't cheat, because you are better than that!Anyway since then things have improved remarkably.1. Have a new well paid salaried job2. Prospect of a higher paid salaried job abroad coupled with the chance of learning a trade which has been in the family for generations3. Seeing a girl I have known for a long time in a few daysThanks for the words of support and adviceStay mellowMSounds like a right wee darling, doesn't she? You're well shot of the bitch.Remember, you must ALWAYS be seen to be doing better than an ex.Even if you're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavH Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 If a woman/man cheats on you guys, do not take her/him back, no matter how much you think you love her, just gain happiness in the fact that she is likely to do it to the other guy tooone of my mates started seein a girl when she was with another guy and then when she cheated on my mate the fool was actually shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Cool!I always wanted to read a load of tawdry muck-raking about someone who presumably has no idea that they are the subject of a FIVE PAGE LONG THREAD.Jesus.What is going on people?What's next:"Here's a load of really private stuff I know about ___________ that they would almost certainly not want to be discussed on an internet forum.""Cool! Fuckin' chicks! Tits! Boobies!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neutral Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Cool!I always wanted to read a load of tawdry muck-raking about someone who presumably has no idea that they are the subject of a FIVE PAGE LONG THREAD.Jesus.What is going on people?What's next:"Here's a load of really private stuff I know about ___________ that they would almost certainly not want to be discussed on an internet forum.""Cool! Fuckin' chicks! Tits! Boobies!"This is a pissed off rant and for good reason there is no private stuff in there, no names, addresses, locations, dates etc This was a way of getting some pressure released.If I had been an arsehole I could have put it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 This thread restored my faith in humanity. Thanks to all involved.YouTube - Haddaway-What is Love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 The link to Haddaway has restored my faith in humanity.Don't hurt me no more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimyReizeger Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Though it hasn't really done anything to contradict the ancient notion that women have nothing but twiglets and strawberry jam between their ears.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Cool!I always wanted to read a load of tawdry muck-raking about someone who presumably has no idea that they are the subject of a FIVE PAGE LONG THREAD.Jesus.What is going on people?What's next:"Here's a load of really private stuff I know about ___________ that they would almost certainly not want to be discussed on an internet forum.""Cool! Fuckin' chicks! Tits! Boobies!"You really are getting far too wound up about all this. Don't you have any other outlets for that frustrated knight-in-shining-armour complex you've got?Can't women themselves object to all this instead of you taking it upon yourself to speak up for them on their behalf, Saviour?Kinda sexist of you to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Though it hasn't really done anything to contradict the ancient notion that women have nothing but twiglets and strawberry jam between their ears..I'm going to patronisingly defend women on their behalf and challenge that.They think about shoes and pretty things as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovers_spit Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 I'm going to patronisingly defend women on their behalf and challenge that.They think about shoes and pretty things as well...I wish I could add a reputation to that but it wont let me.The fact one of your bands is called "Wife Beater" is the icing on the metaphorical cake for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 You really are getting far too wound up about all this. Don't you have any other outlets for that frustrated knight-in-shining-armour complex you've got?Can't women themselves object to all this instead of you taking it upon yourself to speak up for them on their behalf, Saviour?Kinda sexist of you to do that.Right, fair enough.See y'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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