Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I could not agree more about the enthusiasm for Japanese bands. Japanese hardcore is fucking amazing. It seems that a style of music pops up in the Western world, then the Japanese get hold of it and produce something 10 times more insane! God, I love Japcore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aileen Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 "japcore"hhhmm, is this term politically correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest haigyman Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 you can say what you like about hetfield's voice/beard (although...is it just me, or does hetfield not have a "grindy" voice anymore?), but don't you think that when ffaf (or whatever "emo" band) does one of their little shouty bits it sounds like they're being sick many times really quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntedbyafreak Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by Jakey Spike Boy:Japanese hardcore is fucking amazing. that would be envy!!!everyone should be given a cd of theirs upon their 13th birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Emo will pan out like every other over-hyped genre: the bands of any merit will continue, and their fans will continue to love them, the dross will be forgotten* and the hip kids/fair-weather fans will move onto the next thing.*or "musically develop" into what the next big thing is - see New Found Glory, Blink 182 et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by Jonny Lucifer:Emo will pan out like every other over-hyped genre: the bands of any merit will continue, and their fans will continue to love them, the dross will be forgotten* and the hip kids/fair-weather fans will move onto the next thing.*or "musically develop" into what the next big thing is - see New Found Glory, Blink 182 et al. True true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by Aileen:"japcore"hhhmm, is this term politically correct? It's been used since about 1983, when the first wave of Japanese HC bands formed after Disorder and Chaos UK toured Japan. I don't see anything wrong with the word myself, it's only an abbreviation of Japanese Hardcore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Jonny Lucifer:*or "musically develop" into what the next big thing is - see New Found Glory, Blink 182 et al. and what exactly is the 'next big thing'?These bands have been around for YEARS now..... bands usually do tend to evolve and change styles over the course of their careers. Who wants to make the same album 5 times?I hate music snobs, and this pissy little website is littered with the cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartmaxwell Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Mac: Who wants to make the same album 5 times? placebo, oasis et almusic snobs are good, they help to introduce new music to the masses, we are all music snobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by stuartmaxwell:placebo, oasis et al Damn you! Forgot about Oasis.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Mac:and what exactly is the 'next big thing'?These bands have been around for YEARS now..... bands usually do tend to evolve and change styles over the course of their careers. Who wants to make the same album 5 times? AC/DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Re: Re: what a great point about so called "emo"Originally posted by Sky:This should have been put up in the MMW forum; it's shameless publicity mongering. Yes, just look at the long list of debating about MMW that has ensued Your post has just highlighted your dislike for Ben...as I mentioned in the thread on the wasteland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Dan Atom:AC/DC? what? the next big thing.... ? To be fair though, they've made the same album about 30 times Shit.. i'm a music snob.... wait..... really though, I have no interest in 'classic' metal, although I don't go around slagging it off like many others do to other genres of rock.EDIT:oh... and i also said ' bands USUALLY do tend to evolve and change styles over the course of their careers'. AC/DC must be the exception to the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Found Power Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Dan Atom:AC/DC? Not to mention Slayer, and their "Reign in Blood was ace, let's do it again!" syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 So wait... you're saying that metal is formulatic and bands make the same album over and over.Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hey i finished off the last 'emo' thread, can i do the same with this one as well.Who cares if bands make the same album over and over- do something clever like not listening to them if you don't like them or something radical to the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 can I go get some lunch instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Yeah pick me up a cheese and ham baguette with mayo and a snickers while you're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 no drink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplefrodo Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 But that's what metal is isn't it, a formula. My punk friends worked out the metal formula many moons ago. Firstly you need to get a group of people together who have long hair and tight clothes. Must be Exibitionists! Get same metal chord progression that has been used by every metal band ever. Thrash the chord sequence to death and and some high pitched squeeling "rock..OOOOOOOON" etc. Then comes the twenty minute solo, a drum round off, another short solo and a crashing finish. Turn the band into drug-abusers/alcoholics/and sex-machines. Have huge pyrotechnic filled shows...make a hundred albums to flood the market sit back and enjoy your metal masterpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by New Found Power:Not to mention Slayer, and their "Reign in Blood was ace, let's do it again!" syndrome. I disagree man! I think Reign in blood aint that great apart from maybe 4 tracks....Sure it set a new standard in thrash but Slayer have written far better albums and havent tried to repeat RIB at all in my opinion...The album after which is "south of heaven" is FAR superior...And my fave slayer album by a mile is "seasons in the abyss." What an album.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by purplefrodo:But that's what metal is isn't it, a formula. My punk friends worked out the metal formula many moons ago. Firstly you need to get a group of people together who have long hair and tight clothes. Must be Exibitionists! Get same metal chord progression that has been used by every metal band ever. Thrash the chord sequence to death and and some high pitched squeeling "rock..OOOOOOOON" etc. Then comes the twenty minute solo, a drum round off, another short solo and a crashing finish. Turn the band into drug-abusers/alcoholics/and sex-machines. Have huge pyrotechnic filled shows...make a hundred albums to flood the market sit back and enjoy your metal masterpiece. I haven't been subjected to that much shit since I fell into the septic tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Bloody hell that must be one hell of a sceptic tank then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 I agree with ben, Reign in blood is crap...Oh shit i forgot, slayer are crap!the only metal bands i ever really got 'into' as opposed to owning a few ok albums, were metallica and panteraPantera for dime, metallica for expertly written songs (up to the black album anything theyve done is genius!)Oh yeah and hetfield has great voice, and stage presence (which is equally important) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Originally posted by Johnny Mac:and what exactly is the 'next big thing'?These bands have been around for YEARS now..... bands usually do tend to evolve and change styles over the course of their careers. Who wants to make the same album 5 times? I'm not saying bands shouldn't develop, but I find it very convienent for a band who made a point of being obnoxiously crude have chosen NOW to 'grow up', when now is time that being a whingy PC-piss-artist is the new cool. See what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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