Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 From thefaint.com:"we have begun mixing our new album, Wet From Birth. it will be released september 14th on saddle creek. we will also begin to tour the world around that time."The Faint are 15% better than your favorite band. It's an empirical fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Woo, yay, and indeed hoopla.Must remember to check out Broken Spindle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 i think they are a touch over rated (like most elecro rock cross over bands)good ...but over ratedthe last album was fairly patchy and too much a replicant of early Ultrvox in places to be totally credibleimoalso heard some reports of quite bad live showsthey can only get better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Really? I thought the last album was pretty solid - much more so than their first release. I stopped reading the music press a while ago, so I must have missed all the hype around them - Haven't seen any live reviews as a result, either. I'd be interested to see them live, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by nullmouse:Woo, yay, and indeed hoopla.Must remember to check out Broken Spindle... I have the first Broken Spindles cd, its pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxton's Superb Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 You kidding betamax? Danse Macabre is truly awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest This Is Music Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by betamax:...credible The use of that word is rather funny coming from a member of Real Shocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Excellent news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by josef k:You kidding betamax? Danse Macabre is truly awesome! some of it is fantastic but some of it is a bit crap too ...to me anyway....thats what I mean by patchykind of frutrating when you think something is almost wonderful if you know what I meanbut they are potentially world beatersand Im looking forward to the new LP too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I was disappointed that they weren't supporting Placebo in Dundee but then the mighty Eighties Matchbox had taken over so I cared not a jot once I heard that I liked 'Danse Macabre' but I agree that it's not quite perfect. I guess I was just expecting too much frmo that particular album - damn the music press to hayell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by This Is Music:The use of that word is rather funny coming from a member of Real Shocks! i knowwe have a perfect zero credibility rating with the local 'serious' muso wank setits something we find equally funnyno hope career musos apeing *insert boring established act* really hate the way we cant play and dont actually give a fuck, but still manage to consistently grab more national radio airplay than the rest of the 'proper' musos put togetheroh the irony!now that IS funny*gets out Danse Macabre for another listen in case Ive been too critical* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Wept Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by betamax:i knowwe have a perfect zero credibility rating with the local 'serious' muso wank setits something we find equally funnyno hope career musos apeing *insert boring established act* really hate the way we cant play and dont actually give a fuck, but still manage to consistently grab more national radio airplay than the rest of the 'proper' musos put togetheroh the irony!now that IS funny*gets out Danse Macabre for another listen in case Ive been too critical*Your post implies to me that popularity should be the career goal of a band. Isn't it enough to just make music, with no concern for money, popularity, success?Having national radio airplay means nothing other than you have national radio airplay. I dont see how it makes your band any better than the "no hope career musos". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by betamax:i think they are a touch over rated (like most elecro rock cross over bands)good ...but over ratedthe last album was fairly patchy and too much a replicant of early Ultrvox in places to be totally credibleimoalso heard some reports of quite bad live showsthey can only get better I'm not gonna argue with you, even though I love it to little pieces I totally see your point. It's moody, yet you can shake ass to it. Perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I must admit to having never seen the Real Shocks live yet - It's just been something I've failed to do but meant to for a while. Must... rectify.I remember seeing an EP on the shelves of some record shop a while ago, are there copies still floating around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by Jesus Wept:Your post implies to me that popularity should be the career goal of a band. Isn't it enough to just make music, with no concern for money, popularity, success?Having national radio airplay means nothing other than you have national radio airplay. I dont see how it makes your band any better than the "no hope career musos". yes its enough. full stop. you are preaching to the converted on that one.but yesradio airplay is cool when it serves to piss off said local muso types who look down on bands like us, because we dont conform to their careerist wannabee marketable demographicbecause we naturally work outside and even against those attitutes, but somehow have the kind of accidental 'success' they eat their grannies liver for...it becomes tres amusing when we get the usual relentless ''you cant fucking play, you cant fucking sing, you dont even play proper songs" shit thrown at us from bands, whose actual creative talent amounts to recycling the *insert established act* songbook (badly)right you are ...radio play or whatever is no real measure of actual success or worth as a creative act....and at what point have I said Real Shocks are 'better' than anyone??? are Keen better than Real Shocks cos they are on the radio 24/7....I think not....point proven. We are not a successful band either......only in our heads when a song really kicks off at a gig do we feel any remote sense of ''success''. I reckon we all think the same on that. Apert from the desperate careerist muso wanks......getting their photos in the P&J is what its all about for those penis headsbut getting one up on the genuine bands in town, dosen't even come into our thinking and why would it? we are mates with half of em, and i do work for free on the promotion and production side for quite a few of em....ermand..its also worth considering that when XFM, Virgin, Radio 1 and Euro/American Stations play your tunes without bribes, its a good indication that whatyou are doing is not just self indulgent wanking it also pays royalties which come in handy for keeping things going when you are operating on a DIY basis outside the conventional music industryeven on the outside you have to be realistic sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 i like danse macaber and blank wave arcade but i haven't heard the danse macaber remixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by nullmouse:I must admit to having never seen the Real Shocks live yet - It's just been something I've failed to do but meant to for a while. Must... rectify.I remember seeing an EP on the shelves of some record shop a while ago, are there copies still floating around? real shocks cds and vinyl are available in all good record shopsie: not many....most copies are vinyl and not many places stock the black syuffdunno if you'll like much of our stuff anyway, its kina throwaway ultra retro punk with huge lumps of synthness thrown in it (certainly not as intelligent as The Faint etc), but I guarantee you'll like the Dirty Hospital remix of our next single....its a huge throbbing sequencer robo-disko track and its currently going down well at club nites like Trash in London....i think it will be right up your street sir....its coming out on a one sided 12 inch in June or July, but ill probably get some bootleg cd copies and distribute locally soonnext deen gig is a 'guest appearance' at the Pills/Josephine/CUTS gig on friday 28th @ The Moorings......basically we'll be playing our full set (30 mins) as a warm up to supporting The Kitchen (Manda Bis) in London the week after.....Mooring gig onstage at 9.30.....without a sound check I would imagineafter that theres a few outa town dgigs and then we do the after show ladyboy party for GoNorth (not an official Go North band this year)....details soonly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Oh you'd be surprised to what cack I listen to Yar, we booked The Kitchen for their first ever gig (*glowing pride*). Only seen them once since and the sound is coming along in leaps and bounds - Their album is going to be released on Damaged Goods, I believe.Missed Dirty Hospital when Del got them up, was much annoyed about that - Look forward to hearing the remix, from what I've heard of DH's stuph it will indeed be my cup of tea. It sounds like the sort of thing we'd play at Elizium (we're 1/3 electrotrash whores, after all).I'm back from Washington DC on Thursday, so depending on how the travelling affects me I may try and make it out to the Moorings. Ta for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Whilst I remember (and my second threadjack this thread, go me!) - The new Motormark album is going to be a bit special, from what I've heard so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown pleasures Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 anything involving Dirty Hospital is fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by nullmouse:Oh you'd be surprised to what cack I listen to Yar, we booked The Kitchen for their first ever gig (*glowing pride*). Only seen them once since and the sound is coming along in leaps and bounds - Their album is going to be released on Damaged Goods, I believe.Missed Dirty Hospital when Del got them up, was much annoyed about that - Look forward to hearing the remix, from what I've heard of DH's stuph it will indeed be my cup of tea. It sounds like the sort of thing we'd play at Elizium (we're 1/3 electrotrash whores, after all).I'm back from Washington DC on Thursday, so depending on how the travelling affects me I may try and make it out to the Moorings. Ta for the info! ive heard a fair bit of the new Dirty Hospital album while it was work in progress and its fantastic......super fast electro clash ...almost punk techno...top chaps!i can get you a copy of the RS v DH disko mix send me a pm if you are gonna appear anywhere (such as a gig) and ill try and have it on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by betamax:ive heard a fair bit of the new Dirty Hospital album while it was work in progress and its fantastic......super fast electro clash ...almost punk techno...top chaps!i can get you a copy of the RS v DH disko mix send me a pm if you are gonna appear anywhere (such as a gig) and ill try and have it on me Nifty, I was just having a poke around to see if there was any news of an album.Thanks lotsly, I'll PM you soon! (Hopefully next week, for the 28th). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Christ, I need to get me down to Elizium more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Wept Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by betamax:[bits also worth considering that when XFM, Virgin, Radio 1 and Euro/American Stations play your tunes without bribes, its a good indication that whatyou are doing is not just self indulgent wanking How is it?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Originally posted by Jesus Wept:How is it?( i suppose if various show producers actually bother to give you airtime for free in schedules packed with songs they are 'sponsored' to play, it means they like your songs....bizarre as it seemsbut if you sit at home just telling yourself how great your music is, but theres no confirmation from cynical outsiders (like radio show producers and DJs) then how do you know you are improving? you could just be going up your own arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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