psydoll Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Do they play all of their songs in ridiculous high tunings except for 'Burger Queen'?Or is it just me? ?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig deadenstereo Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 I may be wrong, but I thought they just went up to F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted May 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Hmmm I thought that they were ridiculous high tunings that would probably result in snappage of strings. Doesn't Molko play a custom guitar or am I speaking twaddle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Molko plays fender jaguars and gibson firebirds and sgs... I'm sure the tuning is up to F, but the two high strings are both tuned in unison to C... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phoenix_down Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 i never realised molko tuned up like that. i was looking at bass tabs earlier and they were al in standard so i assumed the geetar was standard as well...interesting tunings though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by phoenix_down:i never realised molko tuned up like that. i was looking at bass tabs earlier and they were al in standard so i assumed the geetar was standard as well...interesting tunings though. His excuse is that he was too poor to buy a tuner and his knackered old jaguar always went into that tuning... but i suspect he tuned it to suit his voice, and to try rip off sonic youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Ive never used a tuner, I probably play in high G or something but don't know any betterI dont see why he'd tune up - pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phoenix_down Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 would give open string chords a different sound if ya tuned up...or maybe he just fancied a change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 I think - his voice is too high too sing in E, so he needs to sing in F.Because he's musically lazy, he doesnt just change key, he tunes up to accomodate (being lazy and all) so he can play easy open chords in F rather than E (where he cant sing)Wat a clever bar steward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by bryn:I think - his voice is too high too sing in E, so he needs to sing in F.Because he's musically lazy, he doesnt just change key, he tunes up to accomodate (being lazy and all) so he can play easy open chords in F rather than E (where he cant sing)Wat a clever bar steward Exaclty, it was on his own laziness that the guitars *kinda* gut tuned up to F... Ane it wasn't open, he still had to play power chords, he was actually that lazy! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by bryn:I dont see why he'd tune up - pointless You could argue the point about tuning down also - pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by bryn:I think - his voice is too high too sing in E, so he needs to sing in F.Because he's musically lazy, he doesnt just change key, he tunes up to accomodate (being lazy and all) so he can play easy open chords in F rather than E (where he cant sing)Wat a clever bar steward He can sing in F, but not in E? One Semitone makes that much difference?I bought a placebo album once. Cover was exactly the same, CD looked the same, cost me the same, but there was no music on it. Still like it though, for some reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted May 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 What a strange story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phoenix_down Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by Monk Rocker:You could argue the point about tuning down also - pointless. i was gonna bring that up...but i would say theres more use for tuning down than tuneing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted May 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Surely they're both just as valid as each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by psydoll:Surely they're both just as valid as each other? Or alternatively, as invalid as each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted May 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Well muhyes that goes without saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Electric Tibet Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Jags have a short scale length. I remember 1997, when Placebo were good.X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( X-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Originally posted by Monk Rocker:You could argue the point about tuning down also - pointless. Nope, think about it...Tuning up to F is pointless, because that F is totally achievable in standard tuning, hence theres no point in doing it.You can't hit a low C# in standard tuning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Originally posted by bryn:Nope, think about it...Tuning up to F is pointless, because that F is totally achievable in standard tuning, hence theres no point in doing it.You can't hit a low C# in standard tuning But why do you need to play a low C#? That note is in the same register as a bass, so why play it on guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Ok, well an E flat,Hendrix tuned to E flat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Yeah. But why did he need to? Just coz Hendrix did it doesn't mean that there's a point to it, unless it was to make singing easier for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Originally posted by Monk Rocker:Yeah. But why did he need to? Just coz Hendrix did it doesn't mean that there's a point to it, unless it was to make singing easier for him. Nothing to do with singing, it's all about the guitar tone as far as I know. Tuning down makes the strings a bit twangier and more resonant to give a bigger tone. Stevie Ray Vaughan did exactly the same, always tuned down to Eb. Maybe easier to do those huge bends too.I'm pretty sure this is true, but I'm a drummer so it's not my fault if it's bollocks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I jammed recently with someone who normally tunes to Eb, my guitars were, for some odd reason, tuned to F, he really struggled with the vocals . He wasn't even comfortable in E, so in this case we had to tune to Eb for the vocals. That's always what I thought capos were for as well, changing the key to suit the vocalist. So yeah, it may be complete bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Originally posted by Frosty Jack:Nothing to do with singing, it's all about the guitar tone as far as I know. Tuning down makes the strings a bit twangier and more resonant to give a bigger tone. Stevie Ray Vaughan did exactly the same, always tuned down to Eb. Maybe easier to do those huge bends too.I'm pretty sure this is true, but I'm a drummer so it's not my fault if it's bollocks... Sounds plausible, but SRV used 12's or even 13's IIRC, so the tension on them would be greater.I'm sure this is true, but I'm a bassist so it may be bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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