Michael MacLennan Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Au contraire. I think it tells you all you need to know about a band when the question of whether they're good or not hinges on the PRODUCTION' date=' and even the bloody snare sound, on their albums. That goes for the likes of PiL and the Cocteau Twins, too.[/quote']That's one of the stupidest things I've heard on this thread (until Rune popped up), even more so given that the criticism of St Anger earlier on focused on more than just the production. The main problems seem to be song length, strength of tunes and lack of guitar solos.PS If anyone has the gall to say those are production issues, then only as much so as it would be to replace all vocals on Sgt Peppers with morbidly obese builders breaking wind into the microphone, and substitute the guitars for the sound of blackboards being scraped. In that case all albums hinge on the production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Au contraire. I think it tells you all you need to know about a band when the question of whether they're good or not hinges on the PRODUCTION' date=' and even the bloody snare sound, on their albums. That goes for the likes of PiL and the Cocteau Twins, too..[/quote']That's one of the stupidest things I've heard on this thread (until Rune popped up), even more so given that the criticism of St Anger earlier on focused on more than just the production. The main problems seem to be song length, strength of tunes and lack of guitar solos.PS If anyone has the gall to say those are production issues, then only as much so as it would be to replace all vocals on Sgt Peppers with morbidly obese builders breaking wind into the microphone, and substitute the guitars for the sound of blackboards being scraped. In that case all albums hinge on the production.Thanks to the above post courtesy of Mr Popcorn Fiend, I need not reply to Steve Temple's comment. Well said sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_1903 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 That's one of the stupidest things I've heard on this thread (until Rune popped up)' date=' even more so given that the criticism of St Anger earlier on focused on more than just the production. The main problems seem to be song length, strength of tunes and lack of guitar solos.PS If anyone has the gall to say those are production issues, then only as much so as it would be to replace all vocals on Sgt Peppers with morbidly obese builders breaking wind into the microphone, and substitute the guitars for the sound of blackboards being scraped. In that case all albums hinge on the production.[/quote']Nice post. Disagree on strength of tune...I think they are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Ahem.http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=14828I thought it was Rick Rubin producing' date=' not Buddha [img']http://www.whitwell.ndo.co.uk/musicthing/images/walkthisway.jpg"hmm...needs more cheese" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Temple Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 That's one of the stupidest things I've heard on this thread (until Rune popped up)' date=' even more so given that the criticism of St Anger earlier on focused on more than just the production. The main problems seem to be song length, strength of tunes and lack of guitar solos.PS If anyone has the gall to say those are production issues, then only as much so as it would be to replace all vocals on Sgt Peppers with morbidly obese builders breaking wind into the microphone, and substitute the guitars for the sound of blackboards being scraped. In that case all albums hinge on the production.[/quote']I could quote all the criticism based on production...but I'm so ashamed that I posted on a Metallica thread in the 1st place, that I'm away to self-flagellate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I actually like St Anger. (Ride the lightning was their best album though.)Personally, they should have kept Dave Mustaine as Megadeth's 'The system has failed' is a brilliant example of a matured musical career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Personally' date=' they should have kept Dave Mustaine as Megadeth's 'The system has failed' is a brilliant example of a matured musical career.[/quote']Although I agree with you in terms of your faith in Mustaine's songwriting - that would have been the worst thing ever to happen to music* - cos if Mustaine hadn't have been booted from Metallica, there would have been no megadeth.And a world without Megadeth? I don't even want to begin imagining what that would be like... *I know this is an exaggeration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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