the_beastly_one Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Seen one getting fucked by 2 men at once on the street, when we were going home from work, which was quite disturbing. Is it more honest to sleep with a prostitute than it is going into a nightclub looking for casual sex? Or thoughts in general about it, like, there have to be some who do it solely for an income, rather than for drugs? Is it 'right'? As far as I can see, they seem to be so restricted by social boundaries, that it plunges them deeper into the hole they're already in (no pun intended), but surely they shouldn't be scourned upon as badly as the public seem to do? But then comes the question of exploitation/abuse etc. For the few stable ones, there's most likely hundreds of others who have been driven into it by circumstance. Are they all sexually/emotionally deprived? Bleh, I've said enough on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Phew, its a heavy and complicated subject. Im sure there are prostitutes who make lots of money and treat it like a day at the office but you're right to point out that a lot of them just need the money for their next score.Cant say I would even consider going with a prostitute. Guys who do go with them, mmm, dunno, its up to them I suppose. There is something wrong though seeing some of them down at the harbour who look really young, its really sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 See loads of them down at practice, most of them look absolutely fucked out their face. I had what must have been a 40 year old woman who looked like she just had the shit smacked out her eye (it was almost hanging out) going "arr yee looking fir bizness?! it ma burfday the day so ahll gee ya a bargain..." ... it put me off sex for life Anyway, anyone who earns tax free money is A. a lucky bastard B. a cheating fucking cunt...search on google for "Aberdeen Girls" to see the prostitue review site..classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 We need to examine the potential for decriminalisation.At the end of the day prostitutes enter into consensual sexual relations in exchange for money.This is no different to porn stars.99.9% of prostitutes are suffering from extreme poverty or drug addictions. Criminalising them does nothing to solve that. I realise that it is only solicitation which is technically illegal, but in the end prostitution is viewed as an illegal activity.I see no reason why licensed brothels could not work, and it would help break the stranglehold of the pimps, who are the real criminals in this situation, taking large cuts of the prostitute's money and in some instances controlling their supply of drugs in order to ensure subservience.Breaking the link between prostitute and pimp should be the number one priority.With licensed brothels you could establish drug rehab programs and other worthy schemes which could exist in tandem, such as career development for those who want to get out of the cycle and sexual health programs to ensure that those with disease get treatment, and that appropriate education is made available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 it put me off sex for life Surely it just makes you appreciate how lucky you are not to have some riddled old hag as a bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 99.9%?Been around huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 99.9%?Been around huh?Well, I got bored with your mother after a while, and they do say variety is the spice of life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 We need to examine the potential for decriminalisation.At the end of the day prostitutes enter into consensual sexual relations in exchange for money.This is no different to porn stars.99.9% of prostitutes are suffering from extreme poverty or drug addictions. Criminalising them does nothing to solve that. I realise that it is only solicitation which is technically illegal' date=' but in the end prostitution is viewed as an illegal activity.I see no reason why licensed brothels could not work, and it would help break the stranglehold of the pimps, who are the real criminals in this situation, taking large cuts of the prostitute's money and in some instances controlling their supply of drugs in order to ensure subservience.Breaking the link between prostitute and pimp should be the number one priority.With licensed brothels you could establish drug rehab programs and other worthy schemes which could exist in tandem, such as career development for those who want to get out of the cycle and sexual health programs to ensure that those with disease get treatment, and that appropriate education is made available.[/quote']It certainly seems to work in Amsterdam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Anyone can come with statistics to prove anything, forty percent of all people know that.I don't think decriminalising/legalising would work. Its a black market product, like drugs. I mean, if drugs were to be sold in shops, just think of all those fucking dodgy dealers who would lose their only source of income! (besides a dole cheque) That would thrust crime up even higher, as the idea of earning money through legitimate means is obviously beyond the comprehension of these assholes.Most pro's are in the business to pay for the smack addiction which their pimp/boyfriend got them into in the first place knowing only too well how they would get them to pay for it, then when she becomes a total fucking mong having meth for breakfast, they find some other naive girl (and by girl I mean girl, I once saw a girl who must have been 14/15 getting jacked up in the stairs of flat in tilly whilst doing my papers, I run the fuck out of there! and I have seen the same guy heading towards the harbour many a time with some delerict on his arm...) its a vicious circle, and its ugly business....I think they should stop cutting heroin so much, make it so pure each hit is a lethal dose, that'll sort them out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 they do say it is the world's oldest profession!i think in theory it is fine, but the reality is diffrent. like has been said, most of them are probs on drugs. i do think it is so sad though when one is raped or murderd and some people are just like " no one will miss them" etc..i should imagine most women who do sell themselves are pretty desprete by that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Anyone can come with statistics to prove anything' date=' forty percent of all people know that.[/quote']TouchI don't think decriminalising/legalising would work. Its a black market product, like drugs. I mean, if drugs were to be sold in shops, just think of all those fucking dodgy dealers who would lose their only source of income! (besides a dole cheque) That would thrust crime up even higher, as the idea of earning money through legitimate means is obviously beyond the comprehension of these assholes.But then, if you're not locking up people who are addicts because they are engaged in an illegal activity, or are committing crimes to be able to pay their dealers, then surely that frees the police up. And since there are less dealers than addicts (supply and demand economics) there would surely, technically, be less crime since they were criminals anyway? I don't advocate drug legalisation btw, but the logic doesn't seem to work.Most pro's are in the business to pay for the smack addiction which their pimp/boyfriend got them into in the first place knowing only too well how they would get them to pay for it, then when she becomes a total fucking mong having meth for breakfast, they find some other naive girl (and by girl I mean girl, I once saw a girl who must have been 14/15 getting jacked up in the stairs of flat in tilly whilst doing my papers, I run the fuck out of there! and I have seen the same guy heading towards the harbour many a time with some delerict on his arm...) its a vicious circle, and its ugly business....Which is why we have to explore the option of decriminalisation. They don't call it the oldest profession in the world for nothing. They cannot eradicate it, nor stop it from happening. The very least they can do is try and protect the (often vulnerable) individuals who end up in this situation.I think they should stop cutting heroin so much, make it so pure each hit is a lethal dose, that'll sort them out...I am firmly a believer that nobody is born evil, and therefore everyone can be diverted onto certain paths in life. We have a duty as a society to help those who chose the wrong path, and those who cannot be helped should at the very worst be segregated from society.I don't see why someone who has descended into drug addiction, but it is possible to save, should suffer such a fate simply because all junkies are "evil".I am against drug legalisation, but suggesting that those who use drugs merit a severe punishment ignores the fact that those who push these drugs are by far the bigger criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Morally i detest it but it's up to them to do it and it is in theory a victimless crime and i don't consider it much different to pornography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Well' date=' I got bored with your mother after a while, and they do say variety is the spice of life...[/quote']Try harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Morally i detest it but it's up to them to do it and it is in theory a victimless crime and i don't consider it much different to pornography.Surely a women showing her baps in a magazine is less harmfull that getting shagged by dodgy guys who could have any disease under the sun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Try harder.I did, but it just made her sore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 I want to go back to the good old days of Earth Maidens, for one silver you could learn all the tricks which will guarentee your future wife doesn't seek favours from master blacksmith after your wedding night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Surely a women showing her baps in a magazine is less harmfull that getting shagged by dodgy guys who could have any disease under the sun?Well obviously i'm talking about porn involving actual sexual acts between two or more people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 I did' date=' but it just made her sore...[/quote']Pretty. You do realise that mother doesn't normally charge people right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Well obviously i'm talking about porn involving actual sexual acts between two or more people.Ah right, true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 I am firmly a believer that nobody is born evilHmm no one is born evil, but a lot of kids today are certainly born INTO evil!The streets I grew up on, i don't even feel safe on anymore, ever seen a gang of 8 year olds beating into a old man with golf clubs? They don't give a shit, theres no talking to them, its all they've ever known. The current state of the nation is fucked...and I don't think any legislations are going to change anything..its fight or fit in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumpy Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 "sorry honey im gonna be home late tonight...yeah ive got a hooker coming over.......yeah i know its short notice....hey how about the pool guy he likes you!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_beastly_one Posted May 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Well obviously i'm talking about porn involving actual sexual acts between two or more people. The thing is though, pornography is controlled. Since it's legal, surely there's legislation protecting the people who engage in it. On the other hand, if you're a prostitute, you can get gang-raped and abused to hell and be able to do little or nothing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach_69 Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 I feel very sorry for them, as i dont suppose anyone actually wants to be a prostitute, they are driven to it (probably a very desperate last resort)the whole fact that they could get heavily abused etc is a good point because most of the time their activities are away somewhere quiet or if someone did see they probably wouldnt help because they are looked down apon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 That is true Rach. One thing people forget is that these people are humans. The laws certainly dont help them. At least in Amsterdam they get plenty of help from the authorities and they are safer in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skittles Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 "sorry honey im gonna be home late tonight...yeah ive got a hooker coming over.......yeah i know its short notice....hey how about the pool guy he likes you!"tuckers a legendwalking home on union street on friday i was asked if i was looking for businesson freakin union street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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