TheTickingTime-Bomb

Haha, he makes exactly 5000 profit every day! Not 4783, or 5021, but 5000. Also, what does he... uh... do?

Hahaha! He has syllable tourettes!

I thought we weren't allowed to post porn on this site?

Just realised I hadn't commented on the show. Yeah Yoko was shit. Basement Jaxx were worse. The african/indian band were tight as fuck though.

Yeah they should only play in their parents living room.

Holy Jesus.

I find this very difficult aswell. There are certain aspects of co-ordination that I fear can never be taught, although with a lot of practice it gets easier. What annoys me is that I feel like I could be singing much better if I wasn't concentrating on the bleedin' bass...

What is this I don't even

That's a different one.

Sorry guys I seem to have derailed the thread somewhat with my barbarous nonsense. Let's get back on track; You were saying something about "fucking" hating vegans? And someone else was making an interesting point about how they would have sex with a pictured woman.

Chill out dude.

Hmmm... Nope I got nothing. You did the point of it?

Meme recognition fail.

This thread seems worthwhile.

What is this I don't even

Actually, well said.

Toy are still covertly operating. We will probably start gigging again in November.

I prefer Barber myself.

That terse piece of language I recently relayed to you is called a quote. The concept is that it is a repeated phrase that adds emphasis to and develops a point or at least instigates some of your own research. The fact that you didn't bother to look for yourself to find out who Dr. David P. Martin (lead investigator on the Mayo Clinic study) actually was (even though I gave you the source) only serves to highlight your own reasoning ability. As it happens Martin isn't altogether convinced that the placebo effect is the only thing that is involved in acupuncture so he could well be an ally of yours, but the reason I quoted him was to show that even in an unbiased academic study; The Placebo Effect is unarguably prominent.

Hahaha! I wholeheartedly approve of your abuse of power.

Sigh. Are you being willfully awkward or do you really not understand? Not that I have to prove the bleedin' obvious, but this is from the National Fibromyalgia Association. In acupuncture studies, the placebo effect can be especially powerful, researchers note. In these studies, sham treatments involve needles that dont actually pierce the skin, or that are not placed in the correct places. Just the expectation among patient and doctor that the patient will get better makes the patient get better, Martin explains.

I think you are confusing yourself. When I mentioned the established fact that one cannot prove a negative, I was implying that the onus was on you to supply some meaningful evidence which shows us beyond reasonable doubt that we should take acupuncture seriously. The placebo effect is well documented already, so I have good reason to believe that it is the basis of acupunctures alleged healing powers. If there is anything more than that, then it can be proved so. Unfortunately for your argument, it hasn't.

You seem to have misunderstood scientific theories. Absence of proof imlies improbability, not proof of absence; you can't prove a negative. For example: Prove to me that Santa Claus doesn't exist. All you can do is say the lack of suitable evidence implies his improbability. I'm bored of this thread - come back nullmouse!

Yes. And your anecdotal evidence is meaningless.

The absence of hard data simply proves that it should not be assimilated into our medical system. Also, the five phases theory of acupuncture along with the idea of "Qi" simply don't fit in to the crossword puzzle of evidence that constitute our current biomedical understanding of the human body. If there is some desirable effect in the practice, then it certainly isn't in these antiquated concepts. However I have not seen any evidence at all to prove beyond reasonable doubt that it achieves anything more than the placebo effect. Quite how Dicky Dawk comes into this I'm not at all sure.