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No problem , I made the offer preparing to haggle too , I'll pm you another price to save me getting any more grief from the proles , if you are interested let me know , if not good luck with the sale

that's my whole point you moron , private sales have no VAT so they should be at least 20% less than a shop would sell an item for it's not up to you to decide if it's a silly offer , it's not your guitar , butt out

so do you think second hand stuff should be the same price as new stuff ? how would you value a second hand guitar ?

I've offered to buy the guitar , how does that spoil his sale you arse ? ......... you are the one posting stuff that has nothing to do with the sale , if you want to call me names either do it by pm or meet me in the pub like a grown up

why does making a reasonable offer for a second hand guitar make me a prick ? why does explaining my valuation of the guitar make me a prick ? why am I even bothering to answer you ? .............no doubt an admin will delete it all soon anyway , not my offer though I hope as it is genuine and up to the op to accept , decline or otherwise , not you

The New price in a shop includes VAT (the shop does not get to keep this) The second hand price in a shop includes VAT (the shop does not get to keep this either) There is no VAT on second hand private sales (so why should it not be discounted from the value of an item ?)

nope , no joking , of the £599 you pay a shop for a new one of these £120 of that is VAT , you don't pay VAT on a s/h private sale ...if on the other hand the op was to trade this guitar in at a shop they could not sell it for the same price as a new one no matter how good condition it is in, say they marked it down 25% from the new price @ £450 , they still have to pay VAT on this , that would be £90 so the guitar is now down at £360 , lets give the shop a 25% (probably a bit low) profit on the sale £90 , that makes the trade in price for this guitar £270 , that is the most I would be prepared to pay for it , my opening offer of £250 is not much less , it's up to the seller to either accept the offer , try to raise me a bit or ignore the offer ............no joke

....and stop calling it a guitar , it's a bass

Thomann do these new for £599 so my offer for a two previous owner guitar is £250 , pm me if you are interested

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oops , maybe the wrong forum , help please mods ??

sounds bad for the future : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15268169

I would say stay away from this , it looks like a home made hotch potch of bits made to look a little bit like a '70's telecaster bass , the headstock is the wrong shape for a tele , it has a precision logo but is not a precision headstock either (could be a precision neck that's been home chopped into nearly a tele shape) The 3 bolt neck plate is correct for a post '72 tele but if the neck was a post '72 tele there would be a bullet truss rod at the headstock (like on a 3 bolt jazz neck) the body and scratch plate "could" be real , ask for more photo's of under the scratch plate and the wiring. Also ask for phot's of the neck off , If it is a P bass (or cheap copy) neck you'll be able to see where the 4 screws used to be before it was fitted to this 3 bolt body .........then walk away

they discussed including a wet's song for the eighties and decided not to , they will probably include them for the wedding song in the 90's programme next week

you have a pm

can I just say that I shared a dressing room and a large bowl of smarties with Claire Grogan (and the rest of altered images) when my band supported them when they played in Aberdeen in the early eighties .........I wonder if Happy Birthday will be one of next weeks tracks ??

£100 is the offer , letzken

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They are £175 new on the bay so how does £100 sound ?

does it come with the footswitch and cover ?

in case anyone was interested the martin was sold at the weekend , I swapped it for a Gibson songwriter 12 string

RC 20 is the 2 pedal looper

neither do I but something like a really cheap p bass copy with an amp won't be far off £200 , here is a fairly good quality bass that does not need an amp , perfect for learning on

how about a fender GB 41 - SCE acoustic / electric bass , like new c/w gig bag £250 , it's a long scale neck and plays very well , maybe not as cheap as you had in mind but he won't need an amp to start with and can practice at home without upsetting M&D ?

http://www.martinguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=z&g=d&m=000-28EC full spec here , come and see / try it anytime , I'll pm you my number