Taking Back Sunday are to Sunny Day Real Estate what Busted are to The Clash (sorry, TBS fans, "Cute without the 'e'" is catchy, but those guys strike me as being of dubious integrity), it's not really fare to write off some awsome bands because of some dubious modern ones. As for Art Punk, I've heard the Icarus Line be labelled that, but I'm really not sure. I opened this thread to learn something, but instead I died a little inside and had to write this post through a mist of salty tears.