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  2. No Perfect Albums in 12 years

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    I feel that albums today are not as classic (perfect) as albums from 10 years ago but thats maybe because they are the albums you grew up with and have special memories associated with them.

    Or maybe its because 10 years ago you didn't have the collection you have now so you had a limited choice therfore you played the same album more often. If you didn't rate it first listen you were more likely to give it another try and probably appreciating it alot more.

    I think time is the problem with so many albums you just dont make as much effort to get into them' date=' if your not enjoying it you just change it to something you will enjoy which 9 times out of 10 is an older favourite.[/quote']

    I've got to agree that the less alums you had, the more you listened to them. Now I'll buy a CD and put it on a few times then it gathers dust, so I never really get totally into it before I make another purchase.

    Another point is that many albums sound cool at first, then when you listen years later it's dated badly. So it takes time to see a really good album.

    You going to see Hot Mangu, Mind Gone Blind and Ded Rabbit in the Ocean on Saturday then Mr M?

  12. overated albums

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    For me the most overrated album in the world is Sgt Pepper and the White Album. I think they're both pretty rubbish' date='. the White Album is facetious, flippant rubbish from a band who were by then getting money for old rope, and the Sgt Pepper thing was indulgent and not what the Beatles were good at, which was simple effective pop. Who honestly likes the middle and climax of Day in the Life? It led to better things and the birth of prog but as a record on its own i think its a bit of a mess and horribly pompous and pretentious. Far more pretentious than anything Floyd, early Genesis or Marillion did and were branded sinners for doing.[/quote']

    Clutching At Straws or just plain ridiculous? I quite liked Marillion but they along with Genesis have dated badly and were both "horribly pompous and pretentious" throughout their career. I'm told that Marillion have developed into a Beatles slant (late period methinks...) since Hogarth has exerted more influence but ...nah they are still plum.

    I like Floyd a lot (70s mainly) but they have produced a huge amount of dross too and it is music for a downer.

    Back to A Day In The Life which I heard on the radio only yesterday. That song is better and worth more in every sense than the entire output of Genesis and Marillion. I mean what would have happened if neither of those bands exists...er...nothing I can think of.

  13. overated albums

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    Maybe and maybe so but that's the one on the album French Disko mentioned. It is still dreadful though. Typical McCartney whimsical pish ranking alongside The Frog Chorus and Mull Of Kintyre.

    Yawn, the tired, lazy, cliches are out again. Every time it's the same songs being picked out. What about Tropical Island Hum another of Macca's kiddies songs...just to freshen things up? Well, I'll trot out Bowie and his Laughing Gnome... boring. Bowie and McCartney have produced much more to be remembered then those songs.

    Back to The White Album I prefer Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road myself but I still like to give it a spin coz it's full of change but does overstretch.

    As DustyD reminds us George Martin suggested it would be better cut to one LP and there are worse songs on it that Ob La Di Ob La Da. Bunglalow Bill is hardly Lennon at his finest or Goodnight and then there's Don't Pass Me By, Wild Honey Pie of course Revolution No9. However, even at their most excessive they still bettered their rivals and there are superb songs on the remainder.

    The major thing for me with all their albums was they didn't repeat themselves and the diversity was breathtaking. Take Macca on the White Album and along side the "whimsical pish" there's Helter Skelter, Back In The USSR and Birthday. I can't think of one song over their career which reminds me of another, whereas now people seemed to be tuned into one style throughout an album or even career...

    Re the spoken intro on Goodnight, it's only on the Anthology version as it was quiet rightly cut from the final version...

    It's down to taste though innit but 40 years on we're still debating them :D

  14. overated albums

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    That may be a bit over the top but it did have Ob La Di Ob La Da on it which is one of the biggest musical crimes ever.

    There are thousands of songs worse than that. Jeez it's just a bit of fun.

    The dated thing does of course matter but the likes of The Beatles and Beach Boys tend to leap out of their peers efforts (lyrically and sonically although I don't like the snare sound on the White album!). Time does tend to seperate the wheat from the chaff though.

    I'd like to put these into the mix

    Velvet Underground + Nico

    REM - Automatic For the People

    The Who - Tommy

    Small Faces - Ogdens Nut Gone Flake

    Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti

  16. New Paul McCartney album

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    Just listened to nearly the whole thing in Sainsburys. It's really fuckin good...I thought he might have been passed it but he's still writing great timeless songs although a few of them sounded like they should be on the 2nd half of Abbey Road or his first solo album. English Tea and Jenifer Wren particuarly caught my attention. Anyone else heard it? Thoughts?

    I'm awaiting my copy arriving from Amazon but I hope your summary is on the mark as with every release I am disappointed but still go out and through my cash away...the blind following the bland. Maybe I'll be amazed...this time.

    Fine Line has grown on me though...

    I missed the Abbey Road thing on Radio 2 last night but the trailers sounded good so I'll check out the download.

  19. Mercury Shortlist 2005

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    Re: the nationality debate.

    Antony may have grown up outside the uk but was born here (and possibly holds a british passport?) so qualified through a musical equivalent of the "granny rule" in football. At the same time' date=' i'm pretty sure that M.I.A. was actually born in Sri Lanka, but moved here as a child and was still nominated, so who knows what the criteria were.

    As far as i'm concerned, "I Am A Bird Now" is a lovely record, and i'm glad its win has set the cat among the pigeons. It's better than the shitey Kaiser Chiefs winning. I'm sure they'll get their day at the Brits.[/quote']

    I have to agree, it's the best thing I've heard this year. Worthy winners

  20. Top 5 best and worst vocalists??

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    Best:

    Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd) - emotional' date=' clear, and at the same time, totally rawking.

    Matt Bellamy (Muse) - incredible range. I was trying to sing along to Plug-in Baby and my mum came in and asked if there was something wrong with the computer because of that weird noise

    Bono (U2) - Say what you like, but he's unbelievable passionate-sounding.

    Thom Yorke (Radiohead) - sounds like he's feeling everything he's singing about.

    Paul McCartney (Beatles) - Oh! Darling is brilliant.

    [/quote']

    Some good choices ...I chose Lennon but should have put Macca alongside instead coz together they were special.

  22. Best Album Of 70's?

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    Dammit. You beat me to it!

    Other than that perfect album' date=' I would nominate;

    1.Innervisions-Stevie Wonder

    2.Grievous Angel-Gram Parsons And Emmylou Harris

    3.The Modern Lovers-The Modern Lovers

    4.The Clash-The Clash

    5.Loaded-Velvet Underground

    6.Maggot Brain-Funkadelic

    7.This Year's Model-Elvis Costello

    8.Sister Lovers-Big Star

    9.American Beauty-Grateful Dead

    10.Moondance-Van Morrison

    So many other great albums to choose from...honourable mentions to Carole King's "Tapestry", Lou Reed's" Berlin", and The Wild, The Innocent And The E-Street Shuffle, by Bruce Springsteen and the E-Street Band. And "Horses" by Patti Smith.

    Oh, And "More Songs About Buildings And Food" by Talking Heads.

    Gonna stop now...[/quote']

    This Years Model is class :cheers:

  25. The worst album you've bought

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    A Momentary Lapse of Reason by Pink Floyd

    The fact that I'd heard the album before buying it makes the title appropriate. I must have though it would be a grower. How wrong I was. A truly sad album: even with collaborators David Gilmour is no songwriter' date=' combined with "throw everything in to make it sound like Pink Floyd" production results in turgid, abject failure. Pity, I was really expecting something more experimental with the strong control of Roger Waters gone. Clearly they needed him more than he needed them & he was right to say the Pink Floyd name should be retired. For further evidence see The Division Bell. At least I didn't buy that pile of pooh.[/quote']

    Thankfully I didn't make a purchase of this as I'd heard somebody's copy.

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