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Jammer

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  1. I suppose there had to be a balance between stuff that would appeal to the hardcore obsessive and the more mainstream audience - some people can only take so much of incomplete takes - even I think I would get a bit sick of listening to the entire Twickenham sessions (available on bootleg as "Thirty Days"). Personally I would've loved to have heard more from the "Helter Skelter" session on Anthology 3 which I loved but you can't please all of the people all of the time. For my more obsessive moments which Anthology fails to meet I stick with "Turn me on Deadman" and the Yellow Dog 7cd "Unsurpassed Masters" set.

    I'll have to check those two out. Cheers

    I've a load of bootlegs but as you say trawling through the Get Back stuff can be a tad tiresome

  2. Yup' date=' they may have been more listenable than just one complete take, but it's not what actually took place at the time, so you have what is essentially a fake version.

    They chopped up A Day in The Life on Anthology two, thus robbing us of one of the most sublime real out takes(the complete version of the "sugar plum fairy, sugar plum fairy" take) that there is from The Beatles, but on the same album gave us a dreadful full version of Yes It Is!?!?!

    Plus, they removed the beautiful harmonies from take 1 of Strawberry Fields Forever!?!?![/quote']

    But then again some of their "proper" finished songs were parts of different takes anyway.

    I waited years to hear the infamous Mary Jane, then I got the 'Sessions' LP on vinyl in the late 80s, which features that and most of the decent unreleased stuff...but it was a dissapointment. Weird though underwhelming.

  3. the anthology trilogy' date=' a fascinating insight into the workings of the band from start to finish although technically its three albums![/quote']

    Mmmm...I think Anthology is only really of use to a Beatles head and even then only to be listened to every now and then. There's some really interesting bits especially the 65-67 period like the Strawberry Fields development.

  4. 1.Give Peace A Chance (John)

    2.Every Night (Paul)

    3.Working Class Hero (John)

    4.My Sweet Lord (George)

    5.Man We Was Lonely (Paul)

    6.Remember (John)

    7.All Things Must Pass (George)

    8.Maybe I'm Amazed (Paul)

    9.Instant Karma (John)

    10.Wah Wah (George)

    11.It Don't Come Easy (Ringo)

    12.Mother (John)

    13.Junk (Paul)

    14.God (John)

    Couple of non-album singles on there' date=' but I reckon they still count. :)[/quote']

    Here's a variation on your excellent set of choices

    1. Every Night (Paul)

    2. What Is Life (George)

    3. Instant Karma (John)

    4. Another Day (Paul)

    5. My Sweet Lord (George)

    6. Love (John)

    7. All Things Must Pass (George)

    8. Maybe I'm Amazed (Paul)

    9. Working Class Hero (John)

    10. It Don't Come Easy (Ringo)

    11. Mother (John)

    12. Junk (Paul)

    13. Isolation (John)

    14. God (John)

  5. Yep' date=' there's even a couple of great Ringo sinles in It Don't Come easy and Photograph.

    I'm particularly partial to George's Jeff Lynne phase as well, the Travelling Wilburys in particular but Cloud 9 as well.[/quote']

    have to agree again on Mr Starkey and "Ringo" is a quite pleasent LP.

    The Wilburys first one was OK but I don't like Jeff Lyne's production in general.

    There's some decent songs lurking throughout their solo careers but it tends to bottom out towards the 70s and in the 80s but nothing really blindingly brilliant. Macca's Chaos and Creation is not bad although the best thing I've heard from him over the last few decades is MTV Unplugged...but he's got a stunning live show.

  6. Yip. I used to listen to Danny Baker on the radio (it was good' date=' honest) and he had a sidekick called Danny Kelly who used to be editor of Q magazine and hosted a late night Channel 4 football show called Over the Moon or something.

    Anyhoo, I remember them having big arguments on air because Baker would point out that, as everybody knows, The Beatles are the best band ever. Whereas Kelly would argue that for a period in the 60s The Byrds were the best band in the world. Now I like The Byrds a lot, and they were of course a big influence on The Beatles, but come on...[/quote']

    Danny Kelly is an anus. He went onto 5 live as a host to a football show and produced one of the funniest dead air moments I 've ever heard. Basically it was the usual audience participation show but nobody was calling. He was spluttering around for the rest of the show...most amusing.

    The Byrds were a very big influence on modern music but for me they were quite samey...although they have a lot of wonderful songs. However, they were influenced by The Beatles who were still the biggest band throughout the period the Byrds were at their peak.

  7. Midge was in Thin Lizzy' date=' he co-wrote Yellow Pearl (the TOTP theme music) with Phil Lynott while he was in the band.

    And was it not vocalist he turned down?[/quote']

    Midge Ure joined Thin Lizzy temporarily for a tour as far as I can remeber. Again I reckon it's MIdge because the question master is Jester:]

    I googled the Sex Pistols thing just now and it says he was offered the singing job

  8. I can't stand The White Album' date=' I think it's an ugly record, so glib and arrogant. There's a lovely earnestness about The Beatles in thier earlier days. For me it's Revolver. I've never been a big Sgt Pepper fan, I think the album spawned some good music but iniktself I think it's a pretentious mess. I know I'm slaughtering sacred cows here. But Day In the Life, lovely verses, dodgy middle section and that appalling racket too, what is the point of it??

    My virew is the Beatles were the most astounding songwriters of the 20th Century for the direct three minute song but they just weren't very good at prog.[/quote']

    That would be not very good at plodding, overblown, pointless "epics"....thank fuck for that.

    But as stated already they were truly progressive in every sense. The journey from Love Me Do to Strawberry Fields took 3 years. Unfortunatley it also opened the gate to self indulgence under the pretence of "progressive rock".

    As for Tomorrow Never Knows, it probably has more in common with dance music than any "prog rock". I love The Bealtes because they didn't follow, stick to genres or styles, they just did their own thing and let the songs breathe.

  9. No it's not' date=' it's a cheery, poppy piece of fluff. It's not meant to be taken seriously, but it is one of the key tracks on the White Album.

    Personally I'd go for Revolver or Hard Days Night. HDN is the Beatles at their pop peak, Revolver had them at full throttle creativity-wise. Not a bad song on either, and certainly light years ahead of the competition at the time.

    The only gripe I have with the White Album is that it's a bit too much to process in one sitting. I would never split it up into two albums though, it would lose its magic.

    Abbey road gets a bit ponderous in the middle, songs like "Because" and "Mean Mr. Mustard" really aren't up to scratch. "Let It Be" is horrible, they should have kept the good songs back for singles or an EP and consigned "One After 909" "Dig A Pony" and "Dig It" to eternal limbo.

    The worst Beatles album has to be "Beatles For Sale". It sounds like a band out of ideas at the end of their career. That's probably why they're so revered now, because they came back with stormers like "Help!" and "Rubber Soul" within a year of that being churned out.[/quote']

    I'd go with most of that too.

    Beatles for Sale was them kanckered from touring and on a downer but considering they made 2 LPs a year, released non LP singles and B sides plus toured constantly til August 1966 and made a few films...nae bad gaen considering eh.

  10. It's a toss-up between 'Revolver' and 'Rubber Soul'' date=' but if you were to condense 'The White Album' down to a single, trim off the fat, it would piss on everything. Ever.

    I have to say when you play them on vinyl, the warmest, most touching sound comes from 'Rubber Soul'. It is a masterpiece of production.[/quote']

    George Martin wanted it to be a single LP too but even the filler is better than some bands output.

    The production on most of their stuff is excellent, they were lucky to have George Martin for the majority of their career.

    Regarding McCartney comment earlier, can't agree, he's got a great voice and it ...and he was the perfect foil to Lennon. Superb musician too.

  11. It's always songs rather than full albums for me' date=' since there were 3 full songwriting talents in the beatles picking one album is really a bit impossible. Revolver is perhaps the best overall album in terms of consistency of mood and songwriting, sergeant peppers feels random but takes you on a "trip" through moods and stylings but there's something about the white album. I think it's a childhood thing for me. Songs like "happiness is a warm gun" and "julia" are just so vivid in feeling and put me in a surreal place with the lucid imagery etc.

    Aside from that abbey road is still a great album and send-off (to the sixties as well as to the beatles) and earlier albums like a hard days night are much simpler, and maybe easier to take in. I'll say the strawberry fields/penny lane single does it for me. It's them at their peak. I don't think strawberry fields will ever lose its ability to affect the listener in slightly disturbing ways, and penny lane it's poignancy and imagination.[/quote']

    Good points there

    Revolver for me at a push but I love em all.

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