Elizabeth Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 So, I was looking at the last page in 'worst taste in music' and there was a little bit of discussion, and then I thought, 'HEY! THAT FITS IN PERFECTLY WITH MY ESSAY FOR UNI'. So here I am. I made a poll, and if there's anyone who hasn't answered it already, then I'd greatly appreciate it if you did. I haven't put down any option other than if you yourself do or don't feel objectified by visual media, as that would complicate things. If you're up for some discussion, then that's cool too, just so long as you answer the question.Here's the link to the poll: Please Vote: Do you feel objectified by visual media (ie. advertising, TV shows, movies, magazines)?Discuss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Fucking hell, that didn't take long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Didn't realise it was just the one question! Answered though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelecasterSam Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 voted !quick & painless.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 What are you studying at University? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 What are you studying at University?Illustration. I'm writing an essay on male objectification in modern media. I don't know why either.Thanks for voting guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeromiserY Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Voted. Good luck with the essay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'm writing an essay on male objectification in modern media. I don't know why either.I realise this is a social question and probably not within the remit of your essay but do men really care about objectification other than as a counter-argument to feminist dogma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Well, according to my essay question, in the last decade it's been suggested that's there's been an increase in male objectification by means of their representation in visual media. This question was last updated in 2007, though, and who knows when it was actually written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Sorry, male objectification. What is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Owl PhD Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Sorry, male objectification. What is it?Maybe Jeffrey can help: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 My sound is screwed. But I read wiki and I must say its an eye opener. I guess in some way Men don't really see the World like this because, and not all of us, but some of us are blinded by the media agenda to keep Men men and Women, Women. Is there a divide?In some way I've often thought why Blokes at my work Phwoaarrr at the page 3 girl, I think it goes beyond primal and into a land of fashion, in which Men are the tools of manipulation. We can be fashioned into whatever mould they decide for us and if they started putting a naked bloke on page 3 it would, in-time, change the perception of how Men see other Men. But on the other hand how can anyone say objectification in the media exists when Women are allowing themselves to be viewed in this way, They have the choices and it seems that objectionists are in the minority and always will be when we consider this.There is objectionism because its in our Nature to be objects. We are programmed to function this way and sex rules our lives whether you want it oo or not. Men especially are on a solo function in life, to breed, it's the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 There is objectionism because its in our Nature to be objects. We are programmed to function this way and sex rules our lives whether you want it oo or not. Men especially are on a solo function in life, to breed, it's the way it is.I disagree with this statement.What about asexuals? Their lives aren't ruled by sex. What about gay men? Their 'solo' function isn't to breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I disagree with this statement.What about asexuals? Their lives aren't ruled by sex. What about gay men? Their 'solo' function isn't to breed.Strip away all the confusion surounding our race, we are on a solo mission much like bacteria, to produce more, it truly is our base function. Elton John is a father, or mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Sorry, male objectification. What is it?Objectification deals with focusing on a part of a person's body rather than the whole person, therefore 'objectifying' them. In other words they are no longer a real person just the piece of flesh on show. In a lot of cases I believe it's mistakenly identified or out of any real context and it proves nothing.Look up a documentary by Sut Jhally on youtube called "Dreamworlds". Now try to imagine thinking like that.EDIT: I found it for you:YouTube - dream worlds part 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Funny the way things go round. I'm pleased some good has come out of my drunken ramblings about inane Saturday night telly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 In other words they are no longer a real person just the piece of flesh on show. In a lot of cases I believe it's mistakenly identified or out of any real context and it proves nothing.Not really. I watch porn for a very specific reason, I don't want the life-story of the Women on show, oh no, I just want the object, am I alone, yeah, sure I am, so essentially objectifying is neccessary in some cases. And this happens on all sides of the coin, be-it, straight, bi, gay there is no escaping that we publicly admit to strangers that we are good and clean by surrendering what it is that makes us what we are. Objectifying is neccessary.We are agents of evolution and we have specific lusts in-built within us, primarily the reason we as a race are still here. So let's drop the whole objectifying lark, let's just call it obssesive behaviourial judgement syndrome. As long as we have genitals there won't ever be anything other than what we are so there's no point in researching something that isn'treally a crime. We are objectifyers ergo, a market for objectifying is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 That's interesting. Why not join this facebook group?Scottish Coalition Against Sexual Exploitation | Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubbs Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I disagree with this statement.What about asexuals? Their lives aren't ruled by sex. What about gay men? Their 'solo' function isn't to breed.For me, asexuals are confusing, in that they don't want to have sex but they do masturbate. So there is a sexual urge, but they don't want to experience that kind of contact with another person.Edit: Just thinking about it, but couldn't you argue that their lives are ruled by sex in that many can't enjoy a loving relationship because eventually their partner feels they have needs that aren't being fulfilled? I remember watching a programme about this ages ago, and some had an operation that enables them to enjoy sex with someone, because they felt being asexual was holding them back in life. It was years ago so my memory of it is a bit hazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I think it honestly depends on the person. I've known an asexual person and she felt no need to masterbate. Just had no sexual urges. I've also read an article somewhere (I'll see if I can find it and post it) about two asexual people who got married and enjoyed each others company to the point where they fell in love, but there was no sexual attraction. Perfectly happy. I think if people want to identify as asexual then that's fine. I know there are varying degrees, just like there are varying degrees of sexuality if you think about the Kinsey scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Strip away all the confusion surounding our race, we are on a solo mission much like bacteria, to produce more, it truly is our base function. Elton John is a father, or mother.What about people who don't want children, regardless of their sexuality? I feel like you're simplifying things too much when humans are really not as basic as that. It could just be because I'm a radical lesbian feminist tree hugging hippy academic who reads too much but I just can't believe that human beings can be boiled down to a 'mate and destroy' mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 It could just be because I'm a radical lesbian feminist tree hugging hippy academic who reads too muchYou're not vegan? You let me down at the last minute there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubbs Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think it honestly depends on the person. I've known an asexual person and she felt no need to masterbate. Just had no sexual urges. I've also read an article somewhere (I'll see if I can find it and post it) about two asexual people who got married and enjoyed each others company to the point where they fell in love, but there was no sexual attraction. Perfectly happy. I think if people want to identify as asexual then that's fine. I know there are varying degrees, just like there are varying degrees of sexuality if you think about the Kinsey scale.You're right, definitely depends on the person. Also, as I'm sure it was on TV they no doubt put emphasis on things that didn't need it. It was just up to that point I thought asexuals had no sexual urges. I think it was highlighting more how difficult it was to find an asexual partner and how hard it was for others to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davetherave Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Lets not forget metrosexuals. Metrosexual - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 You're not vegan? You let me down at the last minute there.I flirted with vegetarianism in my teens, but my theory is if we didn't eat cows/sheep/pigs they'd take over the earth in a grotesque Planet of the Apes fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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