Diesel Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 ....i had a look at a nice laney which was mentioned on here but anymore ideas/offersmy budget is around 200 Best idea I've heard so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe 5 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Save up and get a Marshall DSL 50.Or if you want something a lot heavier sounding get a Peavy 6505 - I fucking love that amp!Mesa's are good too - but are stupidly expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Mac Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Or if you want something a lot heavier sounding get a Peavy 6505 - I fucking love that amp!He said he was after a clean channel LOL.You could maybe get a valve king for 200 if you look about, get that and a tube screamer and you'd be ok, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roscoe 5 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Ah didnt see that part - no point in the 6505 then! haTheyre still kick ass though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnkaiScreamer Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 He said he was after a clean channel LOL.You could maybe get a valve king for 200 if you look about, get that and a tube screamer and you'd be ok, does the 6505 not have a clean channel?and yeh i was looking at the peavey valveking do you know much about "bugera" amps? ive seen videos and they appear to kick peaveys ass in price vs quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Mac Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 does the 6505 not have a clean channel?and yeh i was looking at the peavey valveking do you know much about "bugera" amps? ive seen videos and they appear to kick peaveys ass in price vs qualityHey do have a clean, but its the worst thing ever. hahaBugera are behringers replica series, good value for money, close to the real thing, but not the best build quality. Loads of horror storys of they coming broken, or lasting a few hours before parts melt.A Valveking would be a good call, One of the guys from Enrapture had one, gave a good enough tone. TS-1 would make it better, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 You'd be as well buying a repair bench if you're considering a Bugera. The 6505 is great on drive but the cleans - as Fraser said - fail hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe 5 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Who needs a fucking clean channel anyway? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I personally don't rate the Valve King. When I was shopping around the bottom end of the valve amp range, I found the VK to be amongst the worst. They are okay, but they really don't offer much character. It's hard to describe, just a very lifeless, dull tone.DSL50's go cheap on ebay. Perhaps around 300. The clean tone is a huge improvement from the JCM900, and there's loads of gain. It really snarls with pedal infront of the lead channel too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe 5 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I have a DSL 100 and i wish id bought the 50.Ive had to buy a volumiser to control the volume while cranking the amp to get the most out of the valves.Having said that, the 100watts comes in handy for DIY shows.And even with out the external volume control, i still get a pretty decent cranked sound on stage.What ever you do, if youre buying Marshall - stay away from the AVT series. They are poor amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I have a DSL 100 and i wish id bought the 50.Ive had to buy a volumiser to control the volume while cranking the amp to get the most out of the valves.Having said that, the 100watts comes in handy for DIY shows.And even with out the external volume control, i still get a pretty decent cranked sound on stage.What ever you do, if youre buying Marshall - stay away from the AVT series. They are poor amps.MG too. and Mode Four. Most of the modern Marshall's are a bit dire, except the JCM2000. The Vintage Modern is alright too, though if I had that amount of money to spend on an amp, I wouldn't buy that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnkaiScreamer Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 it doesnt need to be an amazing clean just clean haha, and i love the 6505!i also like marshalls but not the MG series :L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe 5 Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 6505 is mega expensive. Even a 2nd hand one on ebay will skin you at least 600.Be patient, save and get a decent amp.Or go to Kennys in Dundee and get one on finance haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnkaiScreamer Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 6505 is mega expensive. Even a 2nd hand one on ebay will skin you at least 600.Be patient, save and get a decent amp.Or go to Kennys in Dundee and get one on finance haha thanks man, i got my line 6 from there, under 150 and retail is 250 so it was a bargain :L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean My Wounds Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 What ever you do, if youre buying Marshall - stay away from the AVT series. They are poor amps.I disagree, my AVT50 Head is an ace wee beast. It is serving me very well, to the point where I am trying to source another one to have as a spare.. I love it. I have heard horror stories with the other models in the AVT range but I can not fault the 50H like espically when it is paired with a quality cab.We can all dream of owning an ace valve amp though. Personally I would love to get my hands on a jcm800 but... i can not justify it at the moment, when my avt50 works so well, plus means saving up for a fair while to buy a jcm lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I had the AVT50. I hated it, but I got it for 70 quid, so can't complain too much. It sounded turd for ages, but then I paired it up with an Ashdown bass cab, and it sounded monsterous. Never underestimate the power of a cab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Mac Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I had the AVT150,Glad i own a hiwatt now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Mac Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Rename thread to "Everyone bar one hates the marshall AVT Range." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Tone is quite subjective though. If your rig does what you want it to do, then fuck everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I agree entirely, as I stated earlier in the thread, that it's worth saving to get someone that is built to last. Still, I've seen cheap solid state amps used at gigs and sound great. It really does depend on how its being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean My Wounds Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I only like one AVT product not the whole range....Oh and to answer the thread topic. It is perfectly fine to buy an amp second hand as long as you are careful and know what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I'm yet to be convinced by any solid state live to be honest. Except one or two that cost like over a rand or something in which case you would expect it to be in the same league as a valve. The only one that comes to mind is the one dimebag used to use, the randall. Even then i could be wrong, in which case, Go Valves!I bought said Randall - the 1987 RG100ES. Sounded great live and was a steal at 240 with the RARE footswitch.I still prefer the ENGL though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean My Wounds Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I bought said Randall - the 1987 RG100ES. Sounded great live I would love one of those heads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnkaiScreamer Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I bought said Randall - the 1987 RG100ES. Sounded great live and was a steal at 240 with the RARE footswitch.I still prefer the ENGL though.was your randall a valve? i really like randall and that sounds like quite a steal!where did you get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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