Nev Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 A bit of Captain Face never goes amiss either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think tapes are ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think tapes are aceWhat a surprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yeah, you do realise i was actually suggesting he would've been better off releasing it on Vinyl don't you? Yes I was able to read your post, but you were saying that putting out releases on vinyl is being abstract for the sake of it, despite then saying that you like the quality of vinyl, agreeing with one of the reasons I cited for why you'd put out a vinyl release, none of those reasons even hinting at being abstract for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yes I was able to read your post, but you were saying that putting out releases on vinyl is being abstract for the sake of it, despite then saying that you like the quality of vinyl, agreeing with one of the reasons I cited for why you'd put out a vinyl release, none of those reasons even hinting at being abstract for the sake of it.It was more the case of it being a less popular media these days and a lot of people seem to gravitate towards releasing on less popular medias to make a point. It's all well and good going down that road but if you want people to listen to your music more readily then you're better off releasing it on CD or Download as well as a Vinyl release. I have no objections to people releasing stuff like that on different media types but i'm not buying a tape deck just to listen to one man's mixtape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know exactly where Phil is coming from (although I don't agree with him).He thinks there are a bunch of kids (indie kids and screamo/emo fans) today who want to be 'retro' and release tapes/vinyl because "that's what obscure underground bands do"However, like Richard said, you've kind of blocked your own shot by then saying "I quite like the audio quality of vinyl" so I don't really know what point you're trying to make any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know exactly where Phil is coming from (although I don't agree with him).He thinks there are a bunch of kids (indie kids and screamo/emo fans) today who want to be 'retro' and release tapes/vinyl because "that's what obscure underground bands do"However, like Richard said, you've kind of blocked your own shot by then saying "I quite like the audio quality of vinyl" so I don't really know what point you're trying to make any more.Read my last post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 We posted in the same minute. I didnt realise you had replied until I also had.I'm right though, aren't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 It was more the case of it being a less popular media these days and a lot of people seem to gravitate towards releasing on less popular medias to make a point. It's all well and good going down that road but if you want people to listen to your music more readily then you're better off releasing it on CD or Download as well as a Vinyl release. I have no objections to people releasing stuff like that on different media types but i'm not buying a tape deck just to listen to one man's mixtape.I think for single releases you're better doing a 7" / download these days, can't remember the last time I or anyone I know bought a CD single... It actually works a lot better in terms of getting press/radio play if it's on 7" as opposed to just download, which might be surprising. So in terms of singles being a promotional tool (in general, when released from albums / promoting a tour), vinyl is definitely a good format right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewarden Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 For those who do like tapes, check out MySpace.com - utarid:tapes - 28 - Male - www.myspace.com/utaridkaset , had some nice ones from there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 We posted in the same minute. I didnt realise you had replied until I also had.I'm right though, aren't I?Partly right.I do feel that a lot of the bands seem to point towards that stuff to make themselves more "niche" market and as a way of making their music less accessible to anyone other than "true fans" who would be the ones that would be bothered to make the effort to buy a record player/tape deck to satisfy their needs. In those circumstances i feel that they're being abstract for abstracts sake. Now if they were making their stuff available to download for those of us who don't want to own a turntable or tape deck then that's a different story. While i like the warmth and tone of vinyl, i don't have the space for it in my flat. CD is a lot more usable and less awkward in my opinion (and on the whole cheaper) with a good sound quality so i always plump for a CD release. I will download if it's offered up by the band themselves (at a decent bitrate) and not a p2p network or from a bunch of money grabbers like iTunes/AmazonMP3/Play.A great example of this would be Uncalm's demo release. Now they're a band that i would expect to release a lot of their output on Vinyl but they have also had the foresight to offer up a free download of their demo as well. Good on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think for single releases you're better doing a 7" / download these days, can't remember the last time I or anyone I know bought a CD single... It actually works a lot better in terms of getting press/radio play if it's on 7" as opposed to just download, which might be surprising. So in terms of singles being a promotional tool (in general, when released from albums / promoting a tour), vinyl is definitely a good format right now.Hence the "as well as" bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What a surprise!I don't really know what this is supposed to mean. I own a few tapes, a previous band I was in released a tape because it was a bit more of an aesthetically attractive idea than a cheap Verbatim CDR or whatever. I like them, but I'm not going to argue they have any technical merits over CD's and vinyl. They obviously don't sound as good, and stereos rarely even come with cassette decks anymore so they are impractical to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hence the "as well as" bit.I was just elaborating on your post, given that you mentioned CDs :):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 A great example of this would be Uncalm's demo release. Now they're a band that i would expect to release a lot of their output on Vinyl but they have also had the foresight to offer up a free download of their demo as well. Good on them.I think (could be wrong) but Chris and Kevin were talking about releasing a 4-way split vinyl (presumably with different songs to the demo)...so...uh....yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I think (could be wrong) but Chris and Kevin were talking about releasing a 4-way split vinyl (presumably with different songs to the demo)...so...uh....yeah.Cheers for backing up my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I meant they're doing it as a separate release. I dont know a lot about it though, so I'll shush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I meant they're doing it as a separate release. I dont know a lot about it though, so I'll shush.Chances are their bits will be available to download too though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givemeasmile Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 hot mangu's "necropolis" ep isn't bad, downloaded it from i-tunes the other dayalso if you are even slightly interested in vinyl, buy "you are my coal mine" by copy haho, definitely the best local material I've bought in a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Dont really think anyone will need to download Teabags' bits. We've all seen them anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Didn't some chap release his album on a Nintendo cartridge a year or so ago?Now that's a format! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Didn't some chap release his album on a Nintendo cartridge a year or so ago?Now that's a format!Yeah, i remember reading about that. Copy Haho's stuff is definitely worth picking up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givemeasmile Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Didn't some chap release his album on a Nintendo cartridge a year or so ago?Now that's a format!it's quite a market to be aiming at too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I wouldn't buy that Copy Haho nonsense. VINYL!? WHAT IS THIS!? THE 70's?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Exposure @ Lemon Tree Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I wouldn't buy that Copy Haho nonsense. VINYL!? WHAT IS THIS!? THE 70's?! Whatever next? Cassette releases...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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