Chris#2 Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 the only images that work, are the background images for the main content area and the sidebar.Header/top level nav bar refuses to show up. Presumed dead.Many pages missing. Although no nav bar makes it difficult to do a comprehensive test...Just thought you'd like to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 seems fine from here chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rass Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 i think i know you well enough to ask a dumb question like this chris but your not using a mac are you?! i noticed half the page didnt show up on the macs in the IT center but were fine on any pc i've ever tried it on.what browser/OS are you using? just curious! and being the web god that you are, any thoughts on the situation?oh, and congrats btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 It was working fine on the school computers yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#2 Posted September 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 using Mozilla Firebird on Windows XP.not had a chance to properly look through the site, to see what's broken... busy period at the moment, you know! I'll have a look and tell nyou what's what later tonight, when I get a breather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I also use MoZilla on Win XP and the Atom Site doth not like it very much!My advice is crack open Internet Explorer again, at least til the rest of the world realises the might of MoZilla -Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#2 Posted September 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 but that would defeat the purpose.if everyone switched back to IE, until everyone else realised how good Mozilla et al were, then we'd be using IE for eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Works fien for me. Why do peopel insit on using other programmes such as Mozilla? Is it really that much better, does it really make that much difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#2 Posted September 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Originally posted by Tav Works fien for me. Why do peopel insit on using other programmes such as Mozilla? Is it really that much better, does it really make that much difference? put it this way -the only "improvements" to IE over the last SIX YEARS have been security patches.IE does not support the standards set by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) very well at all. This leads developers to the use of markup that is:Inaccessible to users with disablities.Harder to maintain.Not forward compatible.Innaccessible to users that use devices such as PDA's to access the web.Cross-browser problems.IE is also too lenient when it comes to bad markup in general. This encourages bad markup and thus, more bad/slow/inaccessible web pages.IE is lacking a lot of the features found in other browsers. A good example being tabs for browsing multiple sites - it's probably THE most useful feature ever devised for a web browser.IE is bug-ridden. See point one.IE is no longer going to be developed as a stand alone browser. You'll have to upgrade your OS if you want the next version. Also, the current IE code base is so bloated and patched that Microsoft are having to start again from scratch, rewriting the entire thing.IE is slow. Very slow. Very very slow. Opera is AT LEAST 4 times faster at rendering a page (in my experience). Both Firebird and Opera are a lot faster at starting the program, despite MS cheating by having parts of the IE code preloaded into Windows at start-up.The main alternative browsers (Opera + Mozilla and its varients) are all cross-platform, meaning that they all render web pages exactly the same no matter the OS. MS just killed off IE for Mac, meaning that IE is Windows only. IE for Mac was (bizarrely) better than IE for Windows....I could go on all day as to why I personally don't use IE and why I choose to use Firebird instead. So could the millions of people that use Mozilla-based browsers or Opera, or any browser that isn't on a Windows platform...The question should not be "why do other people use something different to IE?" - it's "Why do people still put up with the pile of shit that IE is?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#2 Posted September 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another thing -If you have any interest in designing/developing web sites, then you should have a Mozilla browser (preferably Firebird) and Opera installed at the very least! Preferably also have some sort of emulation software running an alternate OS (like OS X/ Linux) so you can see other platforms as well. At work, I have 3 Windows machines (XP + IE 6 and Firebird/Opera, 2000 + IE 5, 98 + IE 4 and Netscape 4), a Mac with OS X (Safari) and MacOS 9 (IE 5 for Mac) and a Linux machine (with Konquerer), just for testing everything works. At home I have a similar setup, except for the Mac. See my point about cross-platform development! If you only design for IE, then you cut out MILLIONS of potential site visitors from viewing your site, cos it'll probably be broken from bad code and browser specific "features". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Originally posted by Chris#2 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another thing -blah, blah, blah, blah.... can you believe there's no smiley for YAWN......oh well.. this will have to do!!! tee hee hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Mehhhh see it's all the usual things "so and so is 4 times faster" what does it matter when IE is already pretty speedy, I extra few nano seconds doesn't make much difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#2 Posted September 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Sorry, but did you actually read what I wrote? The faster part is but ONE, fairly insignificant, reason. Read the rest of what I said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach_69 Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Originally posted by angie can you believe there's no smiley for YAWN......oh well.. this will have to do!!! tee hee hee <- this ones good enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rass Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 hey chris, any thoughts on making the site work on your deranged browser yet? have had a couple other complaints about it since this post and im kinda desperate to rectify the problem. Is there certain code that this Mozilla doesnt like? im guessing if its the pictures that are guffed that maybe a different img code or somthing, im yet to understand this CSS you guys have been on about, any chance of a hand? the last thing i want is to be sending the web addy to record companies across the world just to find they are using a browser that doesnt love it and then we end up looking like tards who cant make websites!!anyway gimmie a shout if you have any thoughts dude!Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris#2 Posted September 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 i'll try and get a moment at the start of next week, to sit down and try and understand what's going wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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