Metarie Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 i want to start learning and don't want to spend a bomb on something I may not use all the time. whats a reasonable amount and where can I get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 i actually got one from Argos for my girlfriend for exactly the same reason (she never did stick at it though). I think it was only 75 (or maybe I spent 10 more for the built in pickup, which is surprisingly not shite, Ian simpson take note). The thing that I was surprised the most about was the intonation, you have to go past the 12th fret before it starts to fuck up, not bad for a cheapo acoustic. Maybe I was just lucky though? Failing that, get a second hand one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 You could try ebay. There's lots to be had for good prices, as long as you have a friend to guide you through the rubbish. EE or P&J is always good for a look pre-christmas, and most people will take a beating on price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by soundian i actually got one from Argos for my girlfriend for exactly the same reason (she never did stick at it though). I think it was only 75 (or maybe I spent 10 more for the built in pickup, which is surprisingly not shite, Ian simpson take note). The thing that I was surprised the most about was the intonation, you have to go past the 12th fret before it starts to fuck up, not bad for a cheapo acoustic. Maybe I was just lucky though? Failing that, get a second hand one. Noted! Been trying out recording the piezoed acoustic this morning and it's still fucking shite and the HISS!! You wouldn't believe it! (well, actually you probably would...)You can buy acoustic pick ups off ebay for about 30 at the moment. Don't know how good they are though. I'll be checking out the Argos guitar though - thought Baz was joking earlier this week...Think she'd want to swap for a Yamaha F-310? I'll remove the piezo first of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 The piezo is half the charm, leave it in, leave it in. Obviously I'm joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by soundian The piezo is half the charm, leave it in, leave it in. You have a guitar that dispenses little sweets??? How cool is that!Or am I getting confused again?*paradiddles* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by Frosty Jack You have a guitar that dispenses little sweets??? How cool is that!Or am I getting confused again?*paradiddles* Erm, in a word, yes. Althouh you may have given me an idea, throw the sweets at the people snoring during his set so they too can suffer with the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by soundian Erm, in a word, yes. Althouh you may have given me an idea, throw the sweets at the people snoring during his set so they too can suffer with the rest of us. Or just cover the floor with skittles so they can't escape. Hmm. Once again you've given me a great idea. Ta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 I had an Argos acoustic once and it was horrible, really bloody awful. But is probably alright for learning on I suppose.If you have a little more to spend R&B have a good range of budget acoustics and electro-acoustics. Go along and try some out see what you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAWN THE OX Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by Chris If you have a little more to spend R&B have a good range of budget acoustics and electro-acoustics And funnily enough Bruce Millers also have a range of cheaper acousticsThere is a cool Westfield reduced from 139.00 to 99.00True theres rarely anything below 99.00But you have to pay for quality!!I hear the after sales service on musical instruments in Argos is excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Doubt Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 i agree, i think shaun will aswell, bruce millers!! I got a kimbara a while ago my 1st acoustic well it was a semi-acoustic em 179 did the job, but i got a new jim deacon semi-acoustic for like free cuz my g/f bought it for me it was like 200 so u see she's well trained!! or u could jus steal one!!danny.disclaimer: I do not agree or permit the stealing of anything as it's against the law, blah blah babbling shite!howz that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Originally posted by Chris I had an Argos acoustic once and it was horrible, really bloody awful. But is probably alright for learning on I suppose. As I said, maybe I was just lucky. It was so much better than I expected. Worth the money for the one I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 go ask the same qurestion on www.guitarchat.co.uk (or via www.regentguitars.co.uk, its their forum)and you do pay for what you get with acoustics more, cheaper wood will have much more of a degrading effect compared to an electrics which can be partly hidden behind the pickupshaving said that though, i got a 3/4 argos acoustic from a friend for my birthday and i do like the sound of it quite a lotDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 new thread i think, entitled "where can I get a rich friend like the rest of you?"sickening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dresden Style Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Originally posted by spellchecker You could try ebay. There's lots to be had for good prices, as long as you have a friend to guide you through the rubbish. EE or P&J is always good for a look pre-christmas, and most people will take a beating on price. Ha !EE or P&J ARE always good for a look pre-christmas tut tut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Ha. Stones, glass houses anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostilicus Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 One thing though - the most off putting thing about learning to play guitar can be playing a shit instrument... too high action ,the frets buzz, cut your fingers etc etcBest thing is to spend as much as you can afford on a decent name guitar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Originally posted by Frostilicus One thing though - the most off putting thing about learning to play guitar can be playing a shit instrument... too high action ,the frets buzz, cut your fingers etc etcBest thing is to spend as much as you can afford on a decent name guitar... Playing something with a dodgy action actually helped me, my finger strength was so much better than most people. Have I not shown you the difference in my finger spans (that bit's for Frostilicus)? Learning on something a bit shit means that you can judge more readily if it's for you.When you decide it's time to invest money, something good is so much easier to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Originally posted by Dresden Style Ha !EE or P&J ARE always good for a look pre-christmas tut tut See signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dresden Style Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 spellchecker is my hero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Originally posted by spellchecker See signature. What a cop out, if you were a proper spellchecker you would have pointed out that you were technically correct. That means we've got you twice now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Originally posted by soundian What a cop out, if you were a proper spellchecker you would have pointed out that you were technically correct. That means we've got you twice now. Naturally, I was only testing you."EE or P&J is always good for a look pre-christmas""EE and P&J are always good for a look pre-christmas" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 It is also perfectly correct to say 'EE or P+J are...'. 'at all times there has been a tendency to use the plural with two or more singular objects when their mutual exclusion is not emphasised' (OED) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Originally posted by soundian It is also perfectly correct to say 'EE or P+J are...'. 'at all times there has been a tendency to use the plural with two or more singular objects when their mutual exclusion is not emphasised' (OED) Hmm, interesting. Where is this OED you talk about? Is it a website, or a copy you just happen to have handily next to your computer?So would that mean by emphasising the mutual exclusion, the following would be incorrect:"Either the EE or the P&J are always good for a look pre-christmas"??I think both sound odd now. Perhaps I should have just simplified it to "Check scot-ads". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 If you say 'EE or P&J is' you imply one or the other is good, not both. If you say 'EE or P&J are good' you imply one or the other or both are good. Strictly grammatically incorrect (the second one), but the different meaning, and continued long term usage, make it a valuable contribution to clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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