Stray Cat Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne has graduated into the top 20 of football's richlist.The Dons' chairman is valued at £240 Million - three places and £40 Million ahead of Hearts' majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov, who lies in 21st place.Surely he wouldn't miss £10 million that would clear the clubs debt. The tight fisted bastard won't even fund a new stadium ffs. Cunts like that shouldn't be in charge of football clubs. If I had even quarter of what he has I would attempt to buy the cunt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Milne's poured money into the club in the past and doesn't want to do it any longer - and if it wasn't for his personal guarantee, the club would have had their overdraft and loan recalled.As for his funding of a new stadium - Aberdeen City Council won't grant planning permission for just any old stadium, so his hands are pretty tied. Plus, how do you think he got that first £240 million? Not by being a crap businessman, anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam 45 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Yeh know what you mean. But there has been a big tunraround in the clubs income over the last few years. Largely due to the goo job Willy Miller is doing.But yeh why can't he just give us 20mil to spend on a few players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 for once i agree with cloud. there's no point in milne clearing the clubs debt as it would create a false impression. he's going to hopefully get the club into making money again and able to support itself which would make it much healthier than most spl clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 why would milne put his money in his pocket, when he owns less than 40% of the club, if he put his money in then other shareholders would benifit.and just because hes worth 240m does not mean he has 240m, it just means his companys come to that value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest five years Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 As for his funding of a new stadium - Aberdeen City Council won't grant planning permission for just any old stadium' date=' so his hands are pretty tied. [/quote']yet they allow him to build houses pretty much anywhere he likes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Na, he's just waiting for the council to give the go ahead - and chip in for the new stadium and he'll be rubbing his hands as his company buys the old ground and makes even more on the flats they put up. Maybe it's not right for him to clear the debt, but I'm sure if he invested more in the club for transfers, wages etc. we might have a bigger squad which could cope with injuries. I'm not saying give players 10-15 grand a week but we could at least get in a few more to add depth to the squad and a goal scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Na' date=' he's just waiting for the council to give the go ahead - and chip in for the new stadium and he'll be rubbing his hands as his company buys the old ground and makes even more on the flats they put up. Maybe it's not right for him to clear the debt, but I'm sure if he invested more in the club for transfers, wages etc. we might have a bigger squad which could cope with injuries. I'm not saying give players 10-15 grand a week but we could at least get in a few more to add depth to the squad and a goal scorer[/quote']the board funded calderwood 2 potential goalscorers this season, why is it milne who gets the blame, lets remember that aberdeen asset management own more of the club than he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 why would milne put his money in his pocket' date=' when he owns less than 40% of the club, if he put his money in then other shareholders would benifit.and just because hes worth 240m does not mean he has 240m, it just means his companys come to that value[/quote']He does put his money in his pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest five years Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 lets remember that aberdeen asset management own more of the club than he doesaren't they crooked as hell?(not libel/slander whatever, just something i heard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 the board funded calderwood 2 potential goalscorers this season' date=' why is it milne who gets the blame, lets remember that aberdeen asset management own more of the club than he does[/quote']Potential being the operative word. If Calderwood had more to play with we would have more than potential. Milne's a greedy bastard who wouldn't even sell his share to benefit the club. All he's worried about is the extra paypacket each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 He does put his money in his pocket.i ment put his money in his pocket to cleer the debts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Potential being the operative word. If Calderwood had more to play with we would have more than potential. Milne's a greedy bastard who wouldn't even sell his share to benefit the club. All he's worried about is the extra paypacket each year.Who was going to provide the personal guarantee to cover the bank loan and overdraft of 9 million? Not many people with the club's best interests at mind will gladly do that.And again, why should he clear the debts? Should he buy Moshulu and give us all free tickets, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Potential being the operative word. If Calderwood had more to play with we would have more than potential. Milne's a greedy bastard who wouldn't even sell his share to benefit the club.if you think investing 10million pounds in a mid table scottish football club that he doesn't own out right is a good investment' date=' then you nead to wake up. All he's worried about is the extra paypacket each year.so what, hes a buisness man, he didnt buy shares in the club to please the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Voyeur Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 the fans moaning about stewart milne not investing his millions in the club are often those who won't even part with twenty quid to watch a game. it is very easy to make small minded comments from the sidelines. milne has invested in the club and it has gone towards youth development, scouting and the overall infrastructure of the club. aberdeen should be following the hibs model of youth investment and high quality coaching. then we might actually produce some young players that big clubs might want to buy. aberdeen could have a transfer kitty of 100 million but the reality is that top quality players are not going to move to the north of scotland. we couldn't even convince kris boyd or lee miller to come to pittodrie. the best hope for aberdeen is to invest heavily in youth investment and get themselves a new stadium. otherwise we will keep regressing and find ourselves bound with mediocre clubs such as kilmarnock and inverness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ 10 Easy Wishes Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 him being worth 240 million does not mean he has 240 million in cash to spend. it means he owns assets (shares, property) which should he need to liquidise would be worth rather a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Why the hell would they need a new stadium considering they never come close to filling the one they already have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Pittodrie is falling to bits, only the Richard Donald stand is actually suitable for the demands these days. The Main Stand is costing more and more each year just to get their safety certificate and needs replaced, the South Stand needs some refurbishment and the Merkland needs decent facilities. It'd probably work out cheaper in the long run to build a new stadium suitable for community use too rather than maintain/upgrade Pittodrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MerryChristmas Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Pittodrie is falling to bits' date=' only the Richard Donald stand is actually suitable for the demands these days. The Main Stand is costing more and more each year just to get their safety certificate and needs replaced, the South Stand needs some refurbishment and the Merkland needs decent facilities. It'd probably work out cheaper in the long run to build a new stadium suitable for community use too rather than maintain/upgrade Pittodrie.[/quote']Where do you get this stuff?Its a lasugh a minute reading the gravy shit drooling out of your gob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Where do you get this stuff?Its a lasugh a minute reading the gravy shit drooling out of your gobit was in the evening express last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MerryChristmas Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 it was in the evening express last weekSo its second hand gravy shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 It'd probably work out cheaper in the long run to build a new stadium suitable for community use too rather than maintain/upgrade Pittodrie.Yes, I bet thats accurate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Where do you get this stuff?Its a lasugh a minute reading the gravy shit drooling out of your gobSuch a big man aren't you' date=' trying to abuse random strangers on the internet Anyway, it's pretty logical if you look at it - the Main Stand is well known to be in a bad way, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that a stand as old as that will have some pretty major problems. I got shown round it a while back by one of the people responsible for maintaining the ground, and there's a raft of other problems - heck, the board room is tiny, let alone the rest of the place. what else...The toilets in the Merkland are a disgrace, the catering facilities are shabby to say the least, and the whole stand is generally a complete dump. If you take all the costs of upgrading the place bit by bit, with all the chaos and placating local residents during work/etc, chances are, you'd be better off just building a brand new stadium that would also be designed with the community in mind.Of course, Dumpex, you're obviously such a genius that you know how Pittodrie can be modernised and catering for the following things. A) inconvinencing local residentsB) keeping the capacity at at least 15,000 at all timesC) Ensuring that segregation arrangements don't get disruptedD) Opening the stadium for community accessE) Upgrading the capacity of the Main Stand (not for supporters, but for club reasons)F) Not taking up more land than is available (ie, next to none)G) Replacing the facilities in at least two of the standsAnd all the other issues. Or you could build a brand new, 20,000ish stadium without any of those problems, while gaining from the "woo, new stadium" factor that always attracts new people. Maintainence costs would also be reduced from a new stadium (no need to paper over the cracks every off season). Virtually everyone associated with Aberdeen over the last 10 years has stated the problems with Pittodrie, while Milne has been investigating ways for ages to get people to pay for a new stadium because there's no way Aberdeen can afford it on their own. But no, I forgot, you're the expert on football clubs here and you know what's best for them Interests:THIS ACCOUNT IS RARELY IF EVER USED AS OF 04 NOVEMBER 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 A) inconvinencing local residentsB) keeping the capacity at at least 15' date='000 at all timesC) Ensuring that segregation arrangements don't get disruptedD) Opening the stadium for community accessE) Upgrading the capacity of the Main Stand (not for supporters, but for club reasons)F) Not taking up more land than is available (ie, next to none)G) Replacing the facilities in at least two of the stands:[/quote']So why should Aberdeen supporters have any obligation to 'conveniencing' local residents, who's tower blocks probably came a long time after Pittodrie? Why should care less if Pittodrie isn't the community central of Aberdeen? Similarly I don't give a shit if the toilets reek and the pies have brain in them.Sounds like a waste of money to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 The Richard Donald Stand is meant to be subsiding a bit.Wouldn't surprise me, seeing as Big Baldy Stewart helped build it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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