Guest WalkingOnGlass Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Being a mere bass player by trade, I've got little clue about guitar sounds...I'm currently running a Gibson Les Paul Junior though a DSL50 JCM2000 head, I quite like the sound I get out of it, but my technique isn't so hot and I find that my strings seem to ring out and feedback more than I'd like, throwing the tightness of rhythm off, Is there any sort of compression I can get to combat this? Also, because of the singular EQ I cant exactly get the clean sound I'd prefer to have? Any solutions?If anyone has any other ideas, feel free to share, as I said, I'm relatively clueless about guitars, amps or guitar sounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Found Power Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Could be worth it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Best thing to do is try and get yourself an EQ pedal to shape your sound more. These are really good if you can't get the exact sound you want from your amp as they can boost and lower frequencies to shape your sound more.I also find that heavier strings(i use 10-52's, but you could use 11-54's) ring out less than lighter strings. That could just be me thoughhope that helps some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 y'see, i was gonna suggest that, but i don't think that would really solve his problem. they reduce noise when the sound from the guitar is below a certain threshold. if its set too high then it will affect a lot more than just the background noise from strings ringing out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by jamesy weapon:Being a mere bass player by trade, I've got little clue about guitar sounds...I'm currently running a Gibson Les Paul Junior though a DSL50 JCM2000 head, I quite like the sound I get out of it, but my technique isn't so hot and I find that my strings seem to ring out and feedback more than I'd like, throwing the tightness of rhythm off, Is there any sort of compression I can get to combat this? Also, because of the singular EQ I cant exactly get the clean sound I'd prefer to have? Any solutions?If anyone has any other ideas, feel free to share, as I said, I'm relatively clueless about guitars, amps or guitar sounds... Adjust the pickup you use for the clean sound away from the strings...that will have the effect of cleaning up the sound and de-sensitizing the guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Found Power Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Eriatarka:y'see, i was gonna suggest that, but i don't think that would really solve his problem. they reduce noise when the sound from the guitar is below a certain threshold. if its set too high then it will affect a lot more than just the background noise from strings ringing out Yeah, i thought of that after posting.Try an EQ, or possibly just try less gain, more volume from the amp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 I think its a general problem with the DSL.....the EQ sound I get for distortion can be great and really dirty, but just sounds muffled on the clean channel....then it can sound great and crystal clear on the clean channel.....and be way too harsh once distorted....Forget that pedal....I think this is what we need... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 i fuckin hate rectumfriers!!!if i ever own a boogie, its gonna be a Mark IV head or combo! yum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by jamesy weapon:my technique isn't so hot and I find that my strings seem to ring out and feedback more than I'd like, throwing the tightness of rhythm off Try working on imrpoving you technique and perhaps some of the ideas suggested above. Dan has a Boss EQ pedal doesn't he? You should ask for a shot of that and see if it helps out your EQing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 turning down the gain should help a lot with cutting down on feedback and noise at higher volumesan EQ pedal could also be usefull to you, Danelectro make the PB+J Eq (i think thats the name anyway) in their mini range which is supposed to be decent sounding and very good value for moneyDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig deadenstereo Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Danelectro Eq is good and called the Fish 'n' Chips. Is more expensive than used to be, so compare it to the BOSSCraig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Firstly you need to remember to switch the pick up to the neck position if you want a warmer and bassier clean sound.Also, an EQ pedal may help - but then you have the added problem of switching the distortion, the EQ, the pick up selector AND getting to the microphone all in a tenth of a second.Cut the treble on the amp slightly, my clean and distortion always sound fine (except when I forget my channel switcher and clean IS distorted....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 i get wet over rectifiers...........................................................you know what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 have you used one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 no but all the recordings i've heard of them sound rad. also the guitar player in my dads band uses a dual rectifier so i've heard it first hand aswell.but i hate the triple rectifier. thats what tom delonge uses live and it sounds crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 never go by what a recording sounds like.if you listen to the guitar sound on the first Foo Fighters album, its pretty good, but most of it was recorded using a mini marshall stack, the belt clip onesi've taken risks when buying amplification and sometimes it worked out and other times it never. Marshall has never let me down. i bought myself a Vox AC30 once upon a time and it was ok, but it wasn't as good as i expected it to be(i compared it to how i heard it on a few recordings). i even ran it with a thd hot plate (so i could get all those nice warm overtones) and it still didn't sound as good as i expected.try before i buy is my new motounless its a JTM45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Savant Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Jamesy you should maybe look at a TSL60 cos it's got seperate EQ's for each channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Originally posted by Eriatarka:never go by what a recording sounds like.if you listen to the guitar sound on the first Foo Fighters album, its pretty good, but most of it was recorded using a mini marshall stack, the belt clip onesi've taken risks when buying amplification and sometimes it worked out and other times it never. Marshall has never let me down. i bought myself a Vox AC30 once upon a time and it was ok, but it wasn't as good as i expected it to be(i compared it to how i heard it on a few recordings). i even ran it with a thd hot plate (so i could get all those nice warm overtones) and it still didn't sound as good as i expected.try before i buy is my new motounless its a JTM45 The best guitar sound I ever heard was an old and very fucked up ac30...the owner of the amp had been using it for bass for about 3 or 4 years....a friend of mine played his 57 les Paul (yes a 57) through it at about 9 and it was soooooo sweet wow!!!Valve amps sound shit untill they are at brain damage volume... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 yeah, i know they sound shitty until cranked.i cranked my one with a power break and it still wasn't all that great. it probably could of done with a check over. some AC30's are better than others though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I really like my JCM2000 at low volumes actually, I think it sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Savant Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Well when I 1st looked at MY JCM2000 DSL50 with AV1960 cab, I thought it sounded weedy. And I still do. But turn it up and it gets Phat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 yeah even with my poopy little valvestate avt100 it doesn't sound that impressive untill cranked.i was like totally amazed at the difference in tone between the higher and lower volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 All to do with yer valves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 yeah but seeing as in my valvestate the valves are in the pre-amp i turned the gain up and the volume almost all the way up on the channel volume knobs. this is because i assume that the post amp is controlled my the master volume.i was attempting to get the most valviest sound i could.dunno but i could be horribly wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 probably cos your speaker is moving a lot more. people don't realise that pushing your speakers a lot really fucks up the sound and makes it better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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