calum Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 If any other company said, "Position vacamt, only Catholic's nedd apply," there would be outcry! I demand a full investigation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxton's Superb Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 controversial! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 He helped spread AIDS. I have no respect for him and is draconian views that killed people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 This is true.Much of what the Catholic Church preaches equates to severe bigotry at times.Any organisation that tells people in AIDS ravaged countries not to use condoms, decries gays and does not allow female priests needs to get a fucking grip in my opinion.Things have changed a little since the stone age, and I feel that it might just be time for major religions to start changing with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 This is true.Much of what the Catholic Church preaches equates to severe bigotry at times.Any organisation that tells people in AIDS ravaged countries not to use condoms' date=' decries gays and does not allow female priests needs to get a fucking grip in my opinion.Things have changed a little since the stone age, and I feel that it might just be time for major religions to start changing with them.[/quote']well said Callum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprinted Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 He's dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishbone G Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 When i was at a house party friday night/saturday morning, and i mistakenly believed he had already died, folks were asking me why i was so happy.Apart from being so pissed that I was grinning like a moron anyway, i had to explain how this guy leads people on into what i reckon to be a purely false belief so the 'weaker' people have some intangible stronger thing to attatch themselves to.Thats why i dont like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Conservative leader Michael Howard said that he had been a "very great spiritual leader. The deep sense of loss felt by Catholics at the passing of the Pope will be shared by many millions more, of other faiths and of none," he said."In a world of change and uncertainty, people saw him as a rock: steadfast in support of freedom, unswerving in opposition to totalitarianism, robust in defence of Christian values. The Catholic Church has lost a truly remarkable Pope, and the world a very great spiritual leader." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 This is true.Much of what the Catholic Church preaches equates to severe bigotry at times.Any organisation that tells people in AIDS ravaged countries not to use condoms' date=' decries gays and does not allow female priests needs to get a fucking grip in my opinion.Things have changed a little since the stone age, and I feel that it might just be time for major religions to start changing with them.[/quote']Well then maybe you should show some bloody respect for a Pope who in many ways modernised the Catholic church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Well then maybe you should show some bloody respect for a Pope who in many ways modernised the Catholic church.lol by telling people in AIDS ravaged countries not to use condoms, decries gays and does not allow female priests. Are you fucking mad???Modernised? From Stone to Bronze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 A tranny! Grow up. And all popes take on different names to their own when they become pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 lol by telling people in AIDS ravaged countries not to use condoms' date=' decries gays and does not allow female priests. Are you fucking mad???Modernised? From Stone to Bronze?[/quote']You said that not me. And even if that is your opinion, would it be better for it to still be in the stone age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Grow up. And all popes take on different names to their own when they become pope.My tongue was slightly in cheek,jeez, did you actually take that serious?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 You said that not me. And even if that is your opinion' date=' would it be better for it to still be in the stone age?[/quote']Its not my opinion, its the way it is! AIDS did not exist 30 years ago. The Pope did not modernise his views to accomodate this...factWhat? The world changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 A tranny! That was a cracker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 My tongue was slightly in cheek' date='jeez, did you actually take that serious?! [/quote']By saying grow up i was obviously having a dig at your childish sense of humour which would suggest i wasn't taking seriously. Regardless of what anyone here thinks of the pope, he was clearly not an evil man and clearly made of better stuff than the majority of human beings to have ever lived and even then you should show some respect towards people of the catholic faith (which i am not ashamed to admit i am). It sickens me the way it will always be okay for people to be totally disrespectful to catholics. If the leader of any of the other main religions died people would be far more respectful, a fact anyone would be a fucking idiot to dispute.I've also not deducted any scene points from you as you seem to think, but the fact that you said "only down to 81" is possibly the most cringeworthy thing i've ever read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 By saying grow up i was obviously having a dig at your childish sense of humour which would suggest i wasn't taking seriously. Regardless of what anyone here thinks of the pope' date=' he was clearly not an evil man and clearly made of better stuff than the majority of human beings to have ever lived and even then you should show some respect towards people of the catholic faith (which i am not ashamed to admit i am). It sickens me the way it will always be okay for people to be totally disrespectful to catholics. If the leader of any of the other main religions died people would be far more respectful, a fact anyone would be a fucking idiot to dispute.I've also not deducted any scene points from you as you seem to think, but the fact that you said "only down to 81" is possibly the most cringeworthy thing i've ever read.[/quote']Dont get the irony that I gave you a positive scene point because I actually respect your views but may not agree on them?Please explain the Aids/contraception thing? Was the Pope not educated on the birds and the bees? Especially in Africa! Was he going to stop people fucking? What about girls who are raped and have to give birth in 3rd world Catholic countries? Yeah, thats fair.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Dont get the irony that I gave you a positive scene point because I actually respect your views but may not agree on them?Please explain the Aids/contraception thing? Was the Pope not educated on the birds and the bees? Especially in Africa! Was he going to stop people fucking? What about girls who are raped and have to give birth in 3rd world Catholic countries? Yeah' date=' thats fair....[/quote']Excuse me, i never claimed to agree with the catholic church's views on everything, and especially not on contraception, abortion and homosexuals. I find the church's stance on these matters to be far too extreme, although i generally oppose abortion as it is abused by ammoral people resulting in unneccessary termination of innocent life. Although in case of girls who are raped, of course i think abortion is okay. But this isn't about my personal beliefs, i just don't think you should be belittling and demeaning a man who, although not perfect, was a great man who meant a great deal to a lot of people. I mean, he had a major part to play in instigating the tearing down of the Berlin wall, bringing an end to totalitarian communist regimes in Eastern Europe and building bridges with other religions to try to create a more peaceful world. This is a man who, unlike the majority of catholics where he lived, fought to save the lives of Jews in Poland in WWII rather than acting oblivious to the atrocity going on around them. Could you so easily forgive someone if they shot you four times in an assination attempt? I'm not asking you to change your beliefs, just to show some repect for other peoples, which i guess you are suggesting you have done already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Excuse me' date=' i never claimed to agree with the catholic church's views on everything, and especially not on contraception, abortion and homosexuals. I find the church's stance on these matters to be far too extreme, although i generally oppose abortion as it is abused by ammoral people resulting in unneccessary termination of innocent life. Although in case of girls who are raped, of course i think abortion is okay. But this isn't about my personal beliefs, i just don't think you should be belittling and demeaning a man who, although not perfect, was a great man who meant a great deal to a lot of people. I mean, he had a major part to play in instigating the tearing down of the Berlin wall, bringing an end to totalitarian communist regimes in Eastern Europe and building bridges with other religions to try to create a more peaceful world. This is a man who, unlike the majority of catholics where he lived, fought to save the lives of Jews in Poland in WWII rather than acting oblivious to the atrocity going on around them. Could you so easily forgive someone if they shot you four times in an assination attempt? I'm not asking you to change your beliefs, just to show some repect for other peoples, which i guess you are suggesting you have done already.[/quote']Fair enough, I agree.Heres a question, which may sound like Im seeking an arguement. Im not. This is truly just a question. So why are you Catholic if you dont agree on the views regarding contraception, abortion and homosexuals. These strike me as major issues within the Catholic community. Im sorry if I was offensive, long day and a bottle of red doesnt help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 P.S I do not agree on an abortion as a way of contraception like the morning after pill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeenat Aman Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 P.S I do not agree on an abortion as a way of contraception like the morning after pill.So if you have an accident, ie burst condom, you'd rather wait till the fetus was growing before doing something about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 I pm'd Hog, cos it was getting off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 So if you have an accident' date=' ie burst condom, you'd rather wait till the fetus was growing before doing something about it?[/quote']No, Im meaning treating abortion like the morning after pill. I didnt convey my thought across well at all. You shag, it goes wrong, get after pill (fine)You wait a couple of months (not fine and unfair) in my view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Right' date=' in all seriousness, Koral Wojtyla did a hell of a lot of good in his life, and history will view him as a great hero. His efforts to save Jews and other "dissidents" from the holocaust are to be applauded. The courage he showed by visiting Poland while it was under Soviet oppression in 1979 was exceptional, and the ecumenical dialogue he initiated between the faiths of the world was unprecedented. Sure, he was ultra-conservative on contraception and euthanasia, but that simply mirrors the view of many catholics. The battles he fought against oppression and bigotry were his main agenda. May he rest in peace.[/quote']You have a terrible habit of summing my thoughts in a much more articulate manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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