bladeola

No, that's what I think it is too.

Seriously. Their old drummer was mince. The new guy (from watching that video) is confident, solid and tight. Has definitely seemed to have lifted you guys. I'll need to catch a show soon.

Just because I used the same word as that person. Jesus Christ!!!

Plus, lets face it, I'm not shy to say what the hell I want using my own account so...go figure

Nope. I have NEVER used two accounts.

To be fair there is nothing I'd take out of Onion Terror's book...except how to be godawful

Awesome news

I'm not sure what the problem is, surely if someone's putting on a gig and trying to get an audience to go see the headliner it makes sense to put on bands in the similar genre because you know that the chance are that the crowd coming along to see one band will enjoy another, as a promoter you're giving the punters a line up they're likely to like, part of a promoters job surely. People seem to forget on here that music is entertainment, and if they are entertained by that line up and that genre, its up to them if they choose to branch out into other genres, but going to a gig doesnt mean you have to have an interest in all music forms. If these gigs are doing well and people are enjoying them then they're doing their job, simple as that, theres a huge amount of musical snobbery on here, let's just let people enjoy what they enjoy and some of them will branch out into different things, some wont but it just seems to me its a promoter giving the general punters a genre and a type of music he thinks they'll like, simple as that.

Cheers

Stuart

Can't mess with that!

...because, as touched upon, the audience doesn't give a shit about anything except hair metalcore.

What the flying fuck is "Hair Metalcore?"

Some fair points and I guess my identical remark is useless without citing bands, and considering that I would rather listen to Converge, Dying Fetus, Dillinger (like I was back when I was 16 when all this music existed but people would look at me in disbelief that I actually enjoyed it) than pay any serious attention to the thousands of bands ripping them off at the moment (and in most cases I've heard, doing a terrible job of it) I can't be any more specific than I have been. All I'm saying is that it's completely typical for a gig to follow the following format...

Headliner: Metalcore/Thrash/Death/Math band from down south with big following

Support 1: Local Metalcore/Thrash/Death/Math band

Support 2: Local Metalcore/Thrash/Death/Math band

All of the above band members will be wearing black Tshirts with old school metal band logos on them, and will have tight jeans with converse and Emo haircuts. I really think I am correct here, and have seen many flyers or gig ads that follow this syntax. Why do none of these bands play with other kinds of bands? What are the crowd so afraid of? Psycho A Go-Go, My Decaying Leg, Liber8, Contra, Masamune, Quik...all these bands built up a big following back in the day and generated interest locally, all playing completely different stuff, were always able to play with different bands, local and national and people could check out all sorts of styles. If scenesters wanted to ignore the bands that weren't cool enough then that was pretty shitty, but nowadays the masses only want one thing...so what's changed? And yes, it irritated me as a 16 year old...what's so weird about that?

I guess it is somewhat more small minded nowadays in terms of what people go to see. I cant really make my own points any clearer than what I have already though.

I remember packing out the original Drakes with Quik and Liber8, but we didn't play a lot of gigs with POO and Quik to be honest. Scenesters were a major irritation to me back then too, but at least they went to all sorts of punk/metal/ska/rock'n'roll or whatever gigs at Lava. Scenesterism is always annoying, but I definately prefer the idea of the same crowd going to every gig at Lava to see all sorts of rock acts than the same crowd watching 4, in my eyes, virtually identical metalcore bands and having no interest in anything else in terms of local music. I also do not like to be lectured by some spotty teenagers (running a 'promotions company' making big bucks out of what I personally deem a fad) on what constututes being a music lover, especially when their make-or-break definition is whether or not I attend their metalcore gigs.

Who are these 4, in your eyes, virtually identical bands?

You are being ignorant. You're no different to the guy that didnt want to go see ten easy wishes play with the queers because they sound identical. Now you and me know our stuff so we know the differences. Maybe to you modern metal and hardcore bands sound alike but you're hugely mistaken. Again, it's just Ignorance. Let's take some local examples. There is virtually no similarity between MMW, CTS and WSBB. MMW put a modern spin on thrash and death metal with prog metal touches. CTS come from the more post Hardcore played with a Metal sound and WSBB come from the Grind/Tech school. Now all this to you might sound like bollocks but the same could be said when you hear people trying to explain to the person who doesnt understand the difference between pop punk, surf punk, skate punk blah blah. If you're into the music you know the differences.

You really need to read your posts and think a bit more...

Oh and saying that scenesters were an irritation to you "back then" when you were 15, 16, 17 at the most is a bit rubbish. How does one so young let themselves get so jaded?

This thread is pathetic.

Why do so many people quite a few years younger than me sound like bitter twisted irrelevant old men that talk in the "in my day..." stance!

I'm not being my usual confrontational self here but I have to make a few points here.

Tom, Ten Easy Wishes had no problem playing to packed houses when playing with Quik and Point of Origin a few years ago. Remember when boring, stayed people on here would have a go because that was "the scene" back then? There is room for everything now which is awesome. I couldnt make the Quik/Crashdown/PMX show the other week because of family commitments BUT Dan went along and I was pleased to hear it was pretty busy, over 100 people anyway.

There are bands who will always die off with movements etc but some bands are good enough to keep going and transcend these things. I'm sick fed up of reading all the usual suspects who just because they dont like a certain type of music or because it is where most of the "kids" go nowadays that it has no relevance.

Also in my opinion Blood Brothers are absolutely AWFUL!

A "show" is what Andrew Lloyd Webber puts on. Bands play "gigs".

That's your opinion.

Look at the definition yeah?

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source

Show /ʃoʊ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shoh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, showed, shown or showed, showing, noun

verb (used with object)

1. to cause or allow to be seen; exhibit; display.

2. to present or perform as a public entertainment or spectacle: to show a movie.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source

Gig /gɪg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[gig] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, gigged, gigging. Slang.

noun

1. a single professional engagement, usually of short duration, as of jazz or rock musicians.

2. any job, esp. one of short or uncertain duration: a teaching gig out west somewhere.

verb (used without object)

3. to work as a musician, esp. in a single engagement: He gigged with some of the biggest names in the business.

Fair point though.

So it means the same thing basically.

I do prefer saying show. It just sounds a bit more pro, thats all. Personal preference innit?

sorry mr big band, remember us small people when you reach superstardom eh?

No problem mr boring

Shit, is he back?

The one and only.

christ!!!!!

hahahahaha.

Seems a silly thing to get worked up about. If Snafu can afford it, they have every right, like any other establishment in the city to advertise through the use of flyers, posters and now these pillars.

The only knowledge of Snafu I have is when I played with my band there on a DHC night, but it was quite busy, but that's no reason to say they can't advertise because they already have enough folk through the door. That to me, just seems like a childish jibe.

This post is near perfect.

what the...?

Dave, you are so full of shit!

Even with your further posts RE Snafu it still just sems like sour grapes to me! You realise there is more to life than the tiny little cupboard upstairs that you work in that's meant to be a nightclub yeah?

Christ!

eh!! what "approach"??

ah, silly me!

you must be getting me confused with the childish swpies that you have been making in order to get into a mud slinging arguement with me. dunno if you have noticed or not, but im not looking for a rise out of you or your goons anymore

tbh id like to leave it at that, its a waste of time. if you dont want to leave it at that and you have something to say, be a good boy, drop it in a pm and stop making yourself look like a tool

Nah...no point really.

Anyone that knows me properly anyway knows i'm not a tool.

Where is the fun in PM's? People can't get a cheap laugh out of it if they can't see it.

Oh and err "be a good boy?" As you pointed out, Im a man...you're closer to the "boy" in this scenario...ok sonny?

keep trying for that rise benji. might come before yer 30th

Ya see...I wasnt looking for a rise. Was just a humorous comment.

The whole age approach dude, isn't going to work. It really doesn't bother me and people close to me will say the same. I wouldn't care if I was 40 as I'll always know im a much better person than you in most ways.

well if you two like it im not surprised it was...ahem..."deid."

I dont see whats wrong with thinking Claire Sweeney is hot...she is!

rubbish we made some good contacts from last years event, people who were interested in what was happening up here, musta spoken to the wrong people....

well done, lets see you use those contacts then....