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Collins would still be one of the most respected drummers around if it haadn't been for the solo career...mind you if Clapton had died in 1969 and Hendrix was still with us would it apply to them too I wonder?

A mate showed me that scene in AMerican Psycho because of my Genesis obsession and I (only half jokingly) pointed out that he has got his facts wrong as well as his opinions! I'm having a Genesis phase again at the moment: I sometimes go for long breasks without listening and then I play them again and realise that nothing else ever seems to quite match them for that "tingle factor."

I keep trying to find a new one but everything I try is too big!

I haven't but have met the people who run it at a party after an IQ gig. All the bootlegs I've ever heard from there are very good quality, always meant to see a band there!

To backtrack to that comment earlier, yep, I fancy Emma Bunton too. I liked Geri in her bigger days as well, real come to bed eyes.

Cheeky bugger, she so can, she's ace! Me is her little fan aren't I. I was coming on the 15th and aiming for a Saturday night in the Moorings but I think I won't be able to arrive until Monday 17th now. So which is a good night for yas...Thursday or Saturday of that week would do me fine?

Cheers, yours is a beaut cos it actually is discernable at that size! Mine is actually a topless Tippi leaning back against her guitar. You can see her from the other side at ma gallery!

naybiddy rated mine either!

Nowt wrong with the Spice Girls: as I have said many times, 2 Become 1 is a gorgeous song.

Whenever I try and add a really good one it gets rejected for being too big. Ah well, Tippi and her guitar will have to do!

Exactly. In fact it was probably some droopy Phil Collins solo ballad that eventually led to me hearing Led Zep...from Collins solo you go to Genesis, to early Genesis, to other prog rock bands...

I disagree with the article too: while I take the point that he's talking about genre inventing records rather than great ones, even if this were true would it actually be a bad thing? If an original band appears and spawns a wave of imitations where's the glory in that? Not the biggest Radiohead fan in the world but you could say there's a positive glut of bands trying to sound like them (including some that pre-date them!) 2004 for me was a great year for music: the only thing I think we are really missing is the once great live scene, which is healthier than it has been for a while but is still almost invisible compared to the early 70s.

The thing with stuff like Hendrix for me is that you hear from birth that its amazing, yeah yeah yeah, and then you hear it and think "oh yes, actually this is pretty good isn't it?" No harm in that. As for me, I didn't say "wow pink floyd dark side of the moon, is amazing" but I can't see what's wrong with saying it anyway. Just cause something's from the past...and anyway your analogy with artists doesn't work, musically the equivalents of Van Gogh etc would be musicians from a hundred years ago, Floyd et al would be the equivalents of Francis Bacon. Saying liking Metallica is absurd is as silly as saying liking Van Gogh is absurd.

It's a gem. I'm not too sure about the second half of Moonchild but otherwise wow! And those lyrics! I don't know what they're about but what imagery!

Good thread, I like.... 1. And Then There Were Three by Genesis. My first remotely progressive record. I liked Follow You Follow Me and my brother said Many too Many was worth hearing. I put this on and for the first minute of Down and Out thought it was jumping, I'd never heard time changes like that before! But by Undertow I was hooked for life. From there it was back to the start and Trespass, Gabriel greatness and suddenly the words mellotron and twelve string guitar were the reasons I bought records. 2. Clutching at Straws by Marillion. Endless memories of drinking cheap whisky and listening as a lad. This album sounds like a bad night drinking alone in some of the seedier bars down at the docks. And why not? Warm Wet Circles...mmm! 3. Brave by Marillion. Resistant as I am to putting in two by the same band, let alone this band, I don't think any album had such an impact for me on its first listen. I bought this in Virgin on Union St the day it came out simply because the cover was good and the "play it loud with the lights off" reminded me of the order on Ziggy Stardust. I'd been losing interest in Marillion and thought I'd have one last try. I put it on and heard what selt like my entire teenage years in words and music. I actually blubbed duting The Great Escape. Beat that! 4. Dark Side Of The Moon: I think the sleeve was designed for skinning up on wasn't it? What can you say: too many times kicking around on a piece of ground in my hometown listening to Time and feeling I should be doing something else but few other things seemed as enjoyable. 5. Nasty Girl by Betty Davis. My discovery of filthy, dirty, sexy funk. This album is musical viagra. 6. Tales From The Lush Attic by IQ. A fast, furious, scary and fascinating piece of art-rock. 7. Replicas by Tubeway Army: My first album so forever in its debt. And Down In The Park is tremendously spooky, whilst I Nearly Married A Human is extraordinary. This is also lyrically a terrific record: a good concept and some wonderfully doomy scenarios. 8. Setting Sons by The Jam: One of the benefits of having an older brother is hearing stuff like this years before you really grasp the meanings of the lyrics. Terrific stuff. 9. In The Court of the Crimson King: From anger to mellow musings. Magical and dreamy and gorgeous. 10. The Smiths: Can never really choose anything but the Best Of! Its so good! 11. Three Imaginary Boys by The Cure: A real favourite always: a great varied mix of raw songs, the title track being especially atmospheric. And I nearly forgot Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division!

Nay worries!

Tee hee! All booked for coming up now, will be home from the 15th to the 22nd, will spend at least a couple of nights in Aberdeen so maybe see you folks on the Saturday?

I haven't read that book for years, someone ran off with my copy of it! Fish told me Keith was also where he first had a knife pulled on him...is it me or was Scotland definitely less friendly in the Seventies, when so many places seemed to resemble Peter McDougall dramas?

What's the venue going to be? And here's a trivia fact: Keith is where Fish discovered Rush. (If you weren't a Scottish prog fan that sentence would read as complete nonsense!)

I'm couldn't be more up for it if they announced Renaissance and Piblokto were reforming for it.

The other nicest man in prog along with Ant Phillips and Peter Nicholls... Keith thing will be absolutely amazing...when is it gonna be!!!! As for IQ Bodast...I'd say The Wake and Subterranea for sure...they have a Phil Collins period with Are You Sitting Comfortably when a different singer joined briefly. Their first album, Tales from the Lush Attic, was recorded in 1983 in 3 days and is brilliantly rough and ready too! Seventh House was a let down but yet contained two of their best ever songs! Not so taken with the new album though...

Will do, ace. And as a Gabriel fan you really must checkl out IQ, if only for Peter Nicholls' uncanny resemblance to P Gabriel...scary!

Yes please please!!!!!!!

One of mine is the moment in Fly on a Windshield..."WAITING FOR THE WINDSHIELD ON THE FREEWAY...." and then that huge E minor mellotron chord...fuck! Another is "seems Helen of Troy has found a new face...again". One all the boys can sympathise with. Bit like the end of The Lady Lies! never heard Silver Song, that is the one big omission for me! No, this bootleg was an audience recorded one from 1970, can't remember the venue, its a University somewhere...

Back Where I Belong... Indeed Stu, and that moment in Alien Afternoon when he sings "to feel again the wind upon my face..." wow. I was listening to that on my walkman as I arrived back in ma hometown last time I went home and it gave me a real tingle, which was what Genesis are all about.