and more importantly - don't forget that 50Gb HDD... i.e 50,000Mb of space - how much are you for a 32Mb memory card for the PS2? and any complaints about that controllers being too big are null and void since the new controllers are a lot smaller (mind you I actually liked the huge old controllers!) it says something when I sold my Xbox on the friday and by friday night i regretted it, and with the money I had from selling it, bought a new one on saturday afternoon after work...