Take it easy folks! I should say, for the record, that this is not an entirely serious thread. We are dealing with big, sweeping generalisations here. By all means vent but lets keep the social Darwinsism to an absolute minimum. By the same token, enough with the "hands off the chavs stylee posts - the thread title should clue you as to what to expect. I would also like to add that I have met more than a few arseholes among the people at gigs I've attended - more than once I've had to square up to some twat with an excess of testosterone chucking their weight around during a show (maybe I should put this bit into the moshing thread )