There is always room for moral discussion. If you had been born during the crusades you might have been brought up to think that jumping on arab skulls was acceptable moral behaviour. Morality, regardless of what Kant thinks, has always been a revolutionary creature. Now i'm not going to say that I think the Nazi's did a good job or what not, but the only reason I am going to say that is because they lost. If they had won they would have been moral crusaders and we would all relish their memory. Don't be so naive, although I don't generaly like you, you're not as stupid as most of the people here.