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can't buy tickets till payday, so hopefully there'll still be a couple left!

looks pretty good! can't go though

I couldnt care less what a band is called, if i enjoy they're music, thats good enough for me.

Surely, thats what its all about? If you dont enjoy it, there's nothing wrong with that.Each to their own.

Yes, im defensive about the drummer being so young comments. Who would even question that in the way it has been?? His age has no bearing on his ability or why he's in the band.

As for the press, yes, i agree there's not enough coverage of local music but thats not Erotic fire's bloody fault.

I shouldnt get so worked up about this, thats true.

The "jealousy" comments im not interested in at all. i just think that if anything good can come out of this city, surely we should encourage it? and im not just talking about erotic fire, im talking about all good bands on the go at the moment.

isnt there room for everyone? we cant all like everything but why slam people who are trying?

no one said it was erotic fires fault! get off your high horse and don't be so daft.

post here if you see any bargains in town or online. games are expensive so let's do our bit and share the knowledge

choices uk have a decent games sale on just now

prey is 5.99 on 360 and zelda phantom hourglass is 14.99 on ds.

ChoicesUK.com

good shit indeed!

you gonna come and play aberdeen again anytime soon?

one of the finest bands in scotland.

well, ive read all the comments regarding this Aberdeen band and it really got my blood boiling so ive got to get a few things off my chest!

First of all, as far as im concerened, if you have NEVER been to see this band, then your opinion means nothing! How the hell can you comment on something you've never got off you're arse to go and see??

As for them being in 3 newspapers last week, YES 3 well, how many newspapers has YOUR band (if you're in one) been in? Have i even heard of them? I doubt it very much. And no, i dont agree that they are selling out, its called PUBLICITY! something you need if you intend to get anywhere. All publicity is good publicity, as they say.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on music and if you dont like their sound fair enough, but dont put them down because they're being noticed and you're not. Green is not a nice colour.

As for their name, you've bloody well heard of them, havent you? Good or bad, you've heard of them!!!!

Im absolutely disgusted that a few of you are making lewd suggestions as to why they have a 15 year old drummer. Ill tell you why, cos he's an amazing drummer but then how would any of you know, if you've not actually seen them!

These sinister, disgusting suggestions say more about the way YOU think than the band.

They are a great bunch of guys just trying to get somewhere. if you dont like that, well, thats your problem.

If you have an opinion on the actual music and you've seen them, fair enough but dont lower yourself to slagging them off for their name, the paper articles, the drummer etc

Its just all in bad taste!!!

umm, i don't think anyone made any serious sinister suggestions. so perhaps we should just knock that on the head before things are said that people regret.

i think you're also misreading the sentiment behind this thread which is quite obviously aimed at the standard of aberdeen journals journalism and not the bands they choose to cover.

anyway, i think you're getting a bit worked up over nothing here. why be so defensive if it's going so great for erotic fire, shouldn't you be basking in smugness over your mates/husbands/boyfriends/sons bands success?

incidentally can you honestly tell people the name of this band with a straight face? if it crops up in conversation do you say it with pride or are you hesitant to mention it? it sounds like an std.

any word on supports yet?

really looking forward to this, new stuff sounds ace. one of the finest singers in scotland.

Even though blu-ray has won this particular battle, in my opinion its curtains for all optical media in the long term. HD downloads, whether legal or otherwise, will be the norm sooner or later.

i concur and i also think that this is the horse microsoft have really been backing all along hence no built in hd-dvd drive.

though i would expect a blu-ray add on for the 360 to be announced this spring.

alot of people are probably on tiscali and don't even know it as many companies buy their broadband from tiscali and resell. we're moving from pipex homecall(now owned by tiscali and previously resellers of tiscali broadband) to sky because they're inept and expensive.

YouTube - at the drive-in - "one armed scissor" (live jools holland)

it's a shame this clip doesn't include the cut to jools holland just after this performance. the expression on his face was amazing. the cunt.

Is anyone here doing their dream job?

almost. i love my actual job and the time i spend with clients but i could use more money and a less stressful working environment. then i'd have my dream job.

Whit a game. Josh Walker looks a player and Tango got some tactics right! Unlucky with the penalty too, I almost wanted you mob to win at one point. Almost.

You'll get humped in Munich right enough, but at least you'll have your pride.

true story. i don't think munich expected that and we've probably made it harder to go over there now. they'll either rape us or just shut up shop completely and defend their two away goals. it's all worth it for that first 45 minutes though. never in my wildest dreams did i expect to go into half time winning 2-1.

missed the second half due to the fact that i'm at work but i'll take 2-2. i expected an utter defeat not a thrilling draw. the first half was one of the greatest things i've ever seen(though their keeper was shite). it really takes the piss that we play so badly every week then pull out performances like that.

er....

what. the. fuck.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

jesus christ! why can't we play bayern every week? this is insane!

holy fuck.

oh well, good while it lasted

Oh my fucking god.

hahahahaha

this is amazing!

This one could run like the Claire Swires thing.

i was thinking that earlier. certainly has the potential.

boss left, snuck a look. woo!

damn, couldn't you have told me before i got to work? now i have to wait till 10 to look at it!! argh!

22 plus booking fee

gonna be an amazing show!

christ, that's alright. i'll only just be back from me honeymoon though. hmm.

holy shizzle, that's a good line up indeed. any idea on cost yet?

Agreed...

The majority of readers of said publications are probably not 'the' target audience. I would think those that are scanning any music news sections, local or otherwise, will have a darn good idea of what is going on before it was 'reported in the local press. The local press has a purpose to some extent and this is to show aunty Irene and uncle Dod that their directionless niece, or nephew, is famous and Pop Idol or Britains Got Talent is only round the corner.

Out of the two main publications the lesser of two evils is the PnJ if only for the fact that it has the occasional and rare arts review as well as being a little less daily mail.

nah, i disagree. they have a frankly huge readership and there are tons of people who are interested in music on a smaller scale and have no idea how to get involved. surely if there's a chance to get more people interested and involved regardless of what they're into then we should try it! to say that they're not the kind of people we want involved is hugely snobbish and elitist. or maybe i'm just naive.

Honestly this is all fantasy which is based on the extremely shaky premise that there is something worth covering in aberdeen in the first place.

The local press don't give a damn about your so-called music scene, a 2 page spread in the EE about "whats going down in the tunnels" will not get people going down there, so why worry about it? Why does the locality of the music even matter, is it because you know you have a captive audience of thick people here and can guarantee you will sell enough tickets in order to pay for the drinks you require to see yourself through the sordid affair of flaunting your egos on stage?

Fuck the local scene, if you are worried about how many people will turn up at your gig or if the EE will do a piece on it, kill yourself. If your mindset is that small that you actually care about this crap on such a small level I really don't understand why you are involved in this in the first place.

I would like to add by the way, that the tunnels is run by deeply ignorant, unprofessional fuckwits and as a consequence, it's a huge embarassment to the "scene".

nope, i disagree. i can't see how the most popular papers in the area writing about gigs will not lead to an increase in interest and attendance of gigs in general. i also disagree with this idea that those who are interested will find out about it themselves(not your point but twojoes). lots of people would love to get involved even if it just means getting along to gigs but have no idea where to start or how to find out about them. but i'll concentrate on your points in this post.

firstly the tunnels has little to do with this thread so don't know why you've brought that up.

secondly, why do you make music and put it online for people to hear? why do you make your music available for other people to hear at all? you're as guilty of flaunting your frankly larger than average ego as any 'band' who plays live.

and i don't get why you're attacking my reasoning for caring about this place. we already know you have a bizarre self-denial thing going on with living up here but i don't know why you have to try and transfer that to anyone who has an interest or who is actually happy in the north-east of scotland and wants to further the music up here. it's been said before but it's always worth saying again, if you're so distraught by absolutley everything up here why stay here? why keep posting on this site? i really don't understand what you can get from the experience.

your first point is actually quite good though. it is a fantasy. i'm not so stupid that i don't realise that. the only way it could be made real is if there was more support and attention from the council and the media in the north-east. and if people start making better music.

to be honest, the kind of people who read the P&j and EE and the courier etc are not really the kind of people you want to reach anyway are they?

not everyone who reads these papers are idiots. do you ever buy them for the jobs sections or to read while eating a sandwhich at lunchtime?

anyway, there is obviously going to be a large portion of people who read aberdeen journals output who have an interest in music. it doesn't have to be the same music i'm interested in, i'm not suggesting that they cover only music i like. it's all a start and if it gets more people coming to gigs and forming bands then more people outside of aberdeen might take notice and it'll be easier to get decent gigs or press out of town. no matter why you're in a band you don't want to play to an empty venue.

obviously i understand the point that they're under no obligation to cover local music but you'd think that there's a market for it and that it would be the kind of thing which could sell papers and get more popular as the scene grows and gets more interesting(which lets face it, hasn't been happening for a while. we be in a rut just now but hopefully that's passing). i also get that we should force them to take notice by doing stuff off our own backs and of course people should still strive to acheive all they want to acheive through working their arses off in the first place but is it too much to ask that the local press get behind the local part of an industry worth billions of pounds to the national economy?