Pete

Hurrah!

Fudge was always my FAVOURITE fanzine, even though I've never actually bought a copy or read more than a couple of pages of each issue ever!

Is it actually out yet? And being on it, do I get a free copy cos I've got that pisscranes song on there, I helped write and performed in the panto and carol AND helped write and performed on the Metal Lickaz track?!?!

Who can forget 'a single truth' by WBL, still available in One Up records with one song soon to be released on the new Lockjaw compilation. Rippa.

ok then' date=' how about:

jimmy and jonny masterplan: houston / wall of skin / draw the line / slice

acoustic songs to fill out set as required: d.n.r. / last xmas / stars

frosty, thanks for the offer, do you know any deadloss songs?

pete, would you fancy playing caroline's eyes? i think there's an mp3 thing on the deadloss webshite...

surely we can throw some shit together. rehersal 12 til 3 (or something) on the monday of the gig. let's hope somebody can make it along.[/quote']

Oh no there isn't....!

ACtually, I might not there, I think Nikki is working on the Monday so will be driving back down the road...

I'd give it a bash if you got desperate, I'd say I'm quite familiar with the toons. I ain't played a gig in AGES, would quite enjoy getting on stage, even if it was with Deadloss;)

As far as I was always concerned, a proper producer ie Rick Rubin, Ross Robinson, Butch Vig etc takes the songs a band writes and makes little tweaks and changes to the songs to make them as good as they can be. The producer essentially becomes a member of the band for a few months. One of the best examples of this is the demo version of Blind by Korn and the album version - there's huge sections of that song taken out. THAT is producing in my mind, along with helping the band get guitar sounds etc. They help craft the band and the bands path for the next couple of years until they record their next album, basically.

People like Captain Tom or Mark Nicol, 95% of the time they get a band in, they set the mics up, get the sound the band wants and then presses record and that's pretty much it. A few helpful hints along the way to make it sound better but on the whole, no producing - in my mind that is.

(In case he's reading this, I would say Mark TOTALLY produced the pisscranes track I recorded for the Fudge Xmas CD cos there were certainly aspects of that I didn't have a scooby what I wanted to do or what I should do or how to even pull it off so that track is DEFO produced by Mark!)

So, rather than asking who the best producer is or whatever, you should really be asking who the best person is to RECORD your music is unless you're willing to spend a good few months and a fair bit of money making demos and re-recording songs over and over until it's perfick.

If anyone can correct my views of what a producer does, feel free, that's all just come from slightly-educated guesses.

I think we're missing the point here.....

PISSCRANES TRACK ONE!!!!!!!!

That man knows quality when he hears it!

Is there not an award for the best jingle....?

So what's the track listing then?!

Watch Sheila E on Prince's 'Sign O the Times' tour. Good Lord...

Obviously there's no reason why ladies can't be good drummers' date=' but the fact is there are very very few. And I don't just mean uber-technicality, I genuinely haven't seen many who have anything more than very basic ability. But the same goes for guitar, tbh. I don't think many ladies are interested enough to put in the amount of time and dedication necessary to become really good. They usually have better things to do...[/quote']

Usually?! Who's doing the washing up and the ironing while they're out playing gigs?!?!

Seriously though, the girl from Hole was no bad. Sometimes I think girls just aren't aggressive enough to play drums. Oh and doesn't Kid Rock have a big black woman playing drums?

Why, thank you:)

It's called 'The Three Months Of Christmas'.

I'm offended that I can't see them properly without squinting, it's ruining my eyes.

I got 90 and only cos I didn't know who wasn't up for an Award. And it's a suprise to me, really, I don't own a single copy of Fudge...

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't you also need permission from the record company that hold's the mechanical copyright on the recording' date=' unless you re-record it.[/quote']

No, I think it's just the publishers. I don't know why I'm sure enough to post that reply but for some reason I am...

A related story: that song by Edwin Colins that annoys the shit out of anyone that's ever heard it apparently has some half second drum sample at the beginning which was never cleared before it was released cos noone thought the song would do that well. It was only after the song topped the charts in most countries across the world, appeared on millions of adverts etc etc that the original owners of the sample were asked permission to use it. 'You made HOW much in royalties, Mr Colins? Ah, that much? Well, we'll have all that, oh, and a bit more cos you're rude.' Poor old Edwin lost money on that international super hit...

The Three Months Of Christmas by pisscranes, released later this month on the Fudge Xmas CD!

God, I'm so good at this self-promotion bollocks...

Linking Park

I do believe it's short of 'Lincoln Park' as in the place they used to hang out in, or something...

With a story like that, you should be thinking more about getting a room...

I saw her in Edinburgh about two weeks ago and she was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!

The pisscranes Xmas song is done and dusted. It was played in the Asda by the Corn Exchange in Edinburgh yesterday and there were three enquires regarding if there was an album available.....:|

I didn't think it was that great tbh...

And have they played a Fudge event in the last year? Isn't that a must to be nominated...?

Well, if they lost by one single point, that would mean it would be something like 99 points to Contra and 100 points to whoever won, so Amy voting would have actually meant they would have had 100 points too and therefore a tie. What would you have done then, huh?

Thanks for not voting last year Amy, you could have made it affa complicated

I'm lucky if I can get it up at ALL these days but that's a completely different story, children...

Well, I'm offended that pisscranes isn't in this catagory...

We! Are! Metal!

http://www.tbmc.ie/

I'm there, that would make a FUCKING ACE wee holiday!