Jason

know a website where I can get some alternative ones (i.e Metal/Punk etc)? All the "free" ringtone websites that i can find are just for the regular tones but not polyphonic. Thanks

Reminds me of something a wise man once told me: "Quiet boys don't get any sweets." And with that, I leave you.

If only...

that last one's a cracker

Moshulu break even then? Whether or not you like Sugarcult, you have to be impressed that Ross managed to get a band of that size to play Aberdeen. And for that I thank him. Here's to many more gigs like that.

I always enjoy the story of your journey home, Crocker.

I was the Cat in the Hat last year. It was ace. It will be a fun night none the less

make it a local gig??

So yeah the gig..... Was a good night.

I have only read the 1st one. Quite enjoyed it but just never got around to reading the others

was an awesome night and a surprisingly big turnout..

Thanks, would be much appreciated

That's fair enough but like (I think it may have been you, it was a couple of pages ago) said before lots people get into Punk (or what ever kind of music) through the media, be it MTV or whatever. With that in mind then surely a band signing to a major isn't a totally band thing to do. Fine they might be getting paid more but they are also getting the chance to get their music across to far more people and therefore spreading ther message and getting people interested in their scene and discovering other bands that arent as well known. I know that's how I got into the kind of music i listen to... A friend introduced me to bands like The Offspring and from there i discovered bands like Rise Against, Propagandhi and the Lawrence Arms. I'm not saying that every band should sign to a major but I personally dont see why it is seen to be such a terrible thing to do. IF you can be bothered I would love to find out more about ethics etc of what you support through a PM or something...

If punk has to do with politics then surely Fat Mike from NOFX deserves atleast SOME punk credibility...? He was spent alot of his own money and time in creating political awareness for the young voters of America by starting up punkvoter.com and by teaching them through his band. There have been more than a few occations where NOFX have given the money they have been payed for a show BACK to the audience beacuse they felt their fans were being ripped off. Some may say that bands like NOFX are just mainstream sellouts (or what not) but they actually work very hard to get where they are and use their fame in a positive way. I am very interested in this particular subject and would love to learn alot more about it but i cannot understand why people want to keep punk underground and very similar to an exclusive club? Surely if Punk is about ideas and politics (fighting against corporations etc) then you would want other people to know about them?

he made my friend learn the school rules because he stood at the wrong side of the door when he was waiting to get in. "Why are you standing there, boy?" "Everyone else was" "Are you a sheep?" "Eh? No..." "Dont be cheeky! Learn those rules by wednesday and i will test you"

I think Craig summed it up pretty well. Punk has evolved and has also spawned some creap rip offs but has also produced and influenced many a great bands. Although alot of what is labeled punk doesnt sound exactly the same as bands 20 years ago, the influence is still there. Alot of genres evolve, its inevitable, doesnt mean they are any less real than they once were. I am making no sense......need......foood...

Kerrang was actually quite an enjoyable read last week (surprisingly). Similar kind of debate.

well it aint no westhill, that's for sure

The ghetto kids would win..

Reminded me of Refused a little. Thought they did a good job, especialy since they had only 3 days to come up with material.

That will be one hell of a gig!

Travis Barker. I know a few of drummers who hate pop punk but give Blink 182 credit just because of Travis.

holy shit, yeah!

That's an awesome picture.