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his much anticipated ep released after the album was a bit of a dissapointment really, I think when it comes down to it he's a bit of a one trick pony. I'm not too bothered about this latest stuff...

better than a no trick pony...eh Stiply.

PS, Karma...ships in 21 days so that'll be the middle of Nov (?)

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This interview is ace . .

Blackdown: 03/2006 - 04/2006

Interesting read, if you listen to digital mystikz - misty winter you can see completely where he's coming from. The fact he uses soundforge is probably another factor in why all his tracks sound the same.

I found this interesting though

When I started making music I could see through it and I was disappointed because it destroyed the mystery for a bit. But when I chuck crackle over it, it hides it under layers, its no longer mine. And you get a feel of a real environment.

B: Theres one tune on the album, Prayer that has a recording of one dude walking down the street and the walking into a church. You cant analyse what the change is, theres just some change in the air, the air in the tune.

M: its insane because your use of crackle is exactly the reason why about two years ago I started using sonic keysounds in tunes and why I started Keysound Recordings, because I felt I could see through the space in the tunes between the percussion into empty space and because I wanted to fill that space with an environment, my urban environment and consequently to place my tunes in that space.

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Should be shit hot. I can see where Sir Stripey is coming from but i'm lead to believe his "sound" has evolved, slightly; There is a more recent interview here:

Kode9 Interviews Burial

9: What have you been doing since the last album?

Burial: It was a bit weird people hearing the first record because most of those tunes were made without me expecting them ever to be heard. So I've been recovering.

9: How long did it take you to recover?

Burial: About 2 years [laughs]. I've just been trying to get back to why I wanted to make tunes in the first place. The first one got slightly out of where it belonged, and I found it a bit difficult to just block things out and make tunes in a low key way again, and it took time to just get back to doing that, and liking it, and doing it fast, and not trying to be a perfectionist. Just trying to dream up tunes again without worrying what people were going to think.

9: The tracks on the first album had taken about 6 years to make in total.

Burial: Yeah, that was tunes from 2000 hand picked by you out of loads. So doing the second one was never going to be as easy as that, and also I wanted to try and learn some new stuff but I couldn't, so I just gave up and went back to the old ways [laughs]

9: Were you surprised by the reception of the first album.

Burial: Yeah. I think it promised something, but if you listened to it, it didn't really get there. But I think some people liked it because it was just a no fuss bunch of tunes. I want to do low key records so i got uneasy if there was attention. my tunes aren't for everyone but thats the point of it, it's for those people. But I still want people to like it, Im not some ice cold fretless bass playing psychopath.

9: Don't you think, that whatever you felt about it, people liked it because it made a consistent album.

Burial: Why, 'cos it was all moody?

9: Not that it was moody or not, but just that the whole thing had a consistent mood.

Burial: Yeah, it was just a sad, eerie, night time thing. But the new stuff has changed a bit. No it hasn't. Don't listen to me [laughs]

9: What do you think is the main difference between the two albums?

Burial: This one is a bit more buzzin', glowy. It's a bit more uplifting. It doesn't hang around. It's a bit more up. The tunes were made quite fast in the middle of the night and they had to fight for their right to exist. but they came out of nowhere. Its a bit like an unwanted pregnancy, i wasn't always in a good place, but most of the tunes had to be faith restoring somehow to me, but they still take a while to get into.

9: Its still pretty melancholy record. But now I think its downcast euphoria, as opposed to just downcast like on the first one.

Burial: Yeah, the first one was quite a pissed off basic record, downcast. But this one has more little bits of vocals glowing in it, flickering around and burning in the tune, messed with.

9: Why did you end up doing something a bit more 'glowy'?

Burial: It's always been difficult for me to make tunes. i'd just sit or walk waiting for night to fall hoping i'd make something i liked. Or come back in and try to make the club echo in my head from going out. I'd chosen certain vocals because the mood I was in. I wanted more vocals cos they attempt to form songs, its kind of sad but they get to you in the end, i don't want a singer i want something else. Also all i listened to for a year was Black Secret Technology. I still made most of the tunes in the dead of the night, and when you do that you have to let the tune kind of hypnotize you otherwise you'll just fall asleep or play Playstation. The tunes just lulled me, and you need a vocal to do that, and a certain type of sound to echo and circle and sway into a pattern. The moodiness made the tunes, not me. Now when I listen to them, they're ramshackle, DIY and rolling but I know there is a thing trapped in them so that when I look back on them, even if its dry, I know when it was made, I know what was going on that day, its like stapling real life to the side of the tune. I can't get a singer or some session musician to come in and play or sing some dry song, so I've got to get people singing acapellas or just mates singing in their phones and re-cut up what they're saying. Sometimes I run out of a vocal and I have to re-cut up each word and make them sing a whole new verse, and you cant tell what they're saying. But I feel I can make them say certain lyrics.

9: the puppet master ha ha

Burial: I love the sound of 'girl next door' vocals. The way it used to be. Give me that any day over a really talented trained person that can actually sing. There used to be a girl who used to sing in the flat next door but I didn't have the guts to ask her. That would have been kind of awkward to ask.

9: Why don't you do gigs?

Burial: I'm not that kind of person who can step up. I just want to make tunes.

9: Why don't you want to do pictures?

Burial: Same reason. I like the old records, where you didn't know who made them and it didn't matter. You got into the tunes more. I don't want anyone knowing i do tunes.

9: And the drawing on the front of the new album.

Burial: I've been drawing that same one since I was little. Just some moody kid with a cup of tea sitting at the 24 hour stand in the rain in the middle of the night when you are coming back from somewhere.

9: Why didn't you use a sequencer on the album?

Burial: I tried. I did one tune before. . .Unite. With someone showing me how to use it, and it worked out nice, but in the end I wasn't ready and I wanted to do another record without a sequencer again.

9: You like that ramshackle thing, don't you.

Burial: Yeah, I admire people who understand complicated programs or whatever. But I'm not that into tunes that are so sequenced that all you can hear is the perfect grid, e ven on the echoes. With those kind of tunes, sometimes I just hear Tetris music, i always know where i am in the tune so i cant get lost in it, no rough edges in some tunes even when they try hard to sound rough. I want to learn one day how to make tunes properly , but I wanted to do a tribute to my rubbish, dying computer. It starts smoking sometimes and the screen flickers like a strobelight, it mashes your eyes. The tunes are made where they're made, somewhere in my building, the roof or wherever, but not in some airtight studio. Loads of the album was made with the TV on. I wish i could make technical proper music one day but people who want technical music maybe won't like my new tunes but its not for them.

9: What don't you like just now?

Burial: fiending and fakery. Sometimes you get people who don't seem to really enjoy tunes theyre just checking what other people are into and ripping it or slating it . just because..no reason. some people just talk mostly about things they hate like it matters, like they are fighting through a crowd that isn't there. i liked the world before it was so easy for people to find out stuff and get at it. i like it when people are genuine, they like tunes, they want a dance.. i don't get it when people are ploughing in with negative claimage to something. Sometimes you just want music to stay where it is from. I love drum&bass jungle hardcore, garage, dubstep and always will till i die and i don't want the music i love to be a global samplepack music.. I like Underground tunes that are true and mongrel and you see people trying to break that down, alter its nature. Underground music should have its back turned, it needs to be gone, untrackable, unreadable, just a distant light.

9: There are more vocals on this album.

Burial: When I was growing up it was hardcore or jungle tunes and you would catch people singing them while doing the washing up. Like 'Music is the key' 'Thru the vibe' 'inner city life', 'finley's rainbow' guy called gerald, kemet crew. People would be playing them from cars. But deeper tunes too not just big tunes . They tried to put a vibe into the room. They didn't just walk in and stamp on your head. Or they worked hard to take you out of where you were, make you get lost, steal away. They weren't just serving up an element that you could instantly get into. They would put an atmosphere in the room that wasn't there before, or maybe had never been there, not take the atmosphere out the room. Vocals . . .it needs to be glowing, swaying, but I want the tunes to be likeable. Not dark for the sake of it.

9: Why is the album called Untrue?

Burial: When you are not acting like yourself . . .that's an everyday thing for everyone, but it can be a bit sinister . . .It's like the opposite of Unite.

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Guest Giles Walker

It's a shame that this kind of music never really gets aired in Aberdeen, i guess there just ain't enough room for dance music not of the nineties.

Or maybe it's because the people who like this think it is some sort of IDM and those people very rarely go out. I have heard they prefer staying in, listening to awkward music, masturbating with their tiny penises.

Maybe i'm wrong though.

I reckon the pelican club with a boosted soundsystem would be awesome for this sort of thing.

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It's a shame that this kind of music never really gets aired in Aberdeen, i guess there just ain't enough room for dance music not of the nineties.

Or maybe it's because the people who like this think it is some sort of IDM and those people very rarely go out. I have heard they prefer staying in, listening to awkward music, masturbating with their tiny penises.

Maybe i'm wrong though.

I reckon the pelican club with a boosted soundsystem would be awesome for this sort of thing.

I have been toying with the idea of starting some kind of dubstep night in aberdeen, I really don't know how it would go down though. I'm sure stuff along these lines ::GotDarker.com - A free Grime & Dubstep Audio file hosting service would have some kind of audience.

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I reckon doing it as just a dubstep night might be the wrong angle to go for in Aberdeen.

There are enough interesting new forms of bass music coming out that mesh nicely next to dubstep that you could throw into the mix as well.

I am liking what is coming from Drop The Lime's camp right now.

Infact we have an interview up on the blog with their newest signing at the moment.

It would be cool though, but i guess the question is would it work?

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Speaking on behalf of myself alone, a dubstep night in Aberdeen would be brilliant. I've never gone out in Aberdeen properly to be honest so i don't know what's out there, but i'd love to be able to come home from a night out with loads of brand new tracks buzzin round my head i've never heard before.

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i am really depressed at the moment about the state of club nights in aberdeen

Okay i don't know if any of you remeber but I tried to do aberdeens first dubstap/bass genre party - ACIDTEST - I got shafted by some folk in club land after I had arranged a top guest at a great price for the public - Neil Landstrumm didn't play Aberdeen at triptych but we did get to hear his set including original material well before other folks in the uk did. I lost a heap of cash but luckily the event still went ahead in part. Snafu took the booking so atleast Neil didn't get fucked around.

There is a real opportunity to make something work but as I learnt that night this ain't "Show Love" this is "Show Business". The Pelican and Moosh promotions were out of line.

If people get their shit together and work with the right people then anything is possible.

I can think of two great producers that would come and play next week for the travel and a packet of chips (well almost). If 10 people bring 10 friends you've got a gig. if those 100 people have a good time and you show them the loyalty they deserve (good bookings, imaginative music policy, resonable door tax) then before you know it you have a scene.

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

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Snafu took the booking so atleast Neil didn't get fucked around.

i remember going down to the pelican that night to be told they didn't have a clue about neil landstrumm and actually it was some gay night. i wasn't happy.

Aberdeen just seems dead in terms of anything musically interesting, im sick to death of dnb and everything else pretty much does my head in. I wonder what happens next.

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It was a real shame it went down like that, i ended up not even being able to go down to see Neil play because of my stupid beef with Kenny at the time, Neil Landstrumm was staying at mine that night as well!!

As i recall you weren't even allowed in the dj booth.

I have tried to speak to Kef about doing stuff there in the past but they don't really seem interested either, after my last gig i was told that i would be booked again if i played more older stuff.

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i remember going down to the pelican that night to be told they didn't have a clue about neil landstrumm and actually it was some gay night. i wasn't happy.

Aberdeen just seems dead in terms of anything musically interesting, im sick to death of dnb and everything else pretty much does my head in. I wonder what happens next.

Yup that's how it went down - pretty sure it was all about the money on that one - fair do's to the club, I understand they want cash not diverse music. I had thought the club was booked two months previous but the dude handling the promotion... basicly begged me to do the job.... then went and neglected to get any written agreement. :swearing:

I think if people genuinely want somethig then it will happen - Belmont social club... a Hired Sound System? It's sad that the main clubs in town have such low regard for new music. I really wonder why some people are in this business - you have to make money right, but at some point these folks have to ask themselves... will people be dancing to (insert played out genre) in three years time?

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hi,we do dabble with dubstep at DURT, if u check our last Aberdeen playlist on myspace u will see we played some Neil Landstrumm,and experimented with some "ravestep" too ha.

but we are truly a cross genre night and if you wanted just dubstep then we maybe wouldnt be for you.but any genuinely new night doing something different with music will allways get our support.We are based in Glasgow and have been trying to establish a regular slot in Aberdeen,but a passion for music and limmited resources will only take you so far in Aberdeen,no matter how hard you knock your pan in promoting a nigh,it seems,however like the Murphys we are not bitter,n wont give up just yet.ha!

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The only way Dubstep or Jungle (not dnb!) would get off the ground (again) would be a free night on say a tuesday/wednesday.

Dubstep is a minority. Dark 94-98 Jungle is a minority. These genres don't pull in the crowd because the majority of the crowd are, sadly, sheep; easily led and manipulate.

We were all like this when we were young. We need to aim to more mature headz. The one's who have music in their blood; the djs, the producers, the vinyl cats.

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yeah i think you're right - a strictly simgle genre party would n't work longterm simply because in a town like aberdeen it would just be too niche. A bassline party woulod work though. bruk, fidget, niche, UK garage, grime, dubstep, jungle, rave.... it would be sicko_O

that's why I have my record collection.

why bother paying 10 quid to get into a club that wouldn't play what you wanted to hear?

If I want my bass loud...I crank it up!

Imagine a room full of spotty trainspotters waiting for the latest Kode 9 "dub plate"...(if he's not too overrated by then)...

what a fucking turn off.

If you want a "proper" soundclash...go to london. Don't expect like minded sheep shaggers to do a good night. (how was that stiply? I think I got the tone right)................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

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that's why I have my record collection.

why bother paying 10 quid to get into a club that wouldn't play what you wanted to hear?

If I want my bass loud...I crank it up!

Imagine a room full of spotty trainspotters waiting for the latest Kode 9 "dub plate"...(if he's not too overrated by then)...

what a fucking turn off.

If you want a "proper" soundclash...go to london. Don't expect like minded sheep shaggers to do a good night. (how was that stiply? I think I got the tone right)................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

wow you are bitter.

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