jester1470 Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 As there appears to be somewhat of a resurgence of my fave band on here figured I'd post this, quoted from the marillion.com website:The single for You're Gone will be released in 3 separate formats in the UK on 19th April 2004.By our calculations, in the current UK single market, if you go out and buy one single each, we'll go Top 40. If you go out and buy two versions, we'll go Top 20. If, however, you'd like to make an old dog very happy, you could dig-deep, get into eight quids-worth of debt and buy 3 copies or more of our single, in which case, we'd almost certainly go Top 10 and I'd have my first ever Top 10 single just before my 45th birthday!! (bizarre, or what?!) Marillion would become a household name and not simply remembered by Mr and Mrs Joe Bloggs for "Kayleigh". There is no better time for this to happen, as it would set up perfectly this PEACH of an album that we've just finished, and this PEACH of a tour that we're about to embark upon.Steve Hogarth, 4 March 2004Well i'll do it, I think it'd be great to see them getting some recognition as being a good rock band instead of the Genesis clones they're still unfairly tagged with !!I've seen Marillion liove about 20 times and they're still a superb band, really an amazing kick ass live band, although I have not been too impressed with the last few albums, I've been reliably informed that the new stuff is superb, and the live tracks I heard last year seem to back that up. There appears to be a few of us going down to the Barrowlands show in July, should be a good one, not seen them in the Barra's since the lenengary Brave Tour in 94, we should look at meeting up for a drink down there. I'm heading down with Blair Cunningham, who along with Jo McCafferty supported Marillion and their lead singers solo tour a few years ago. For anyone going to that gig its well worth considering the Fish gig in Glasgow next month, should be a great night, apparently the Fish dates are superb and the support Never Tjhe Bride are pretty good, and their singer does a duet with Fish. Fish's new album is oneof the best snce he left Marillion in 89, I think it may be the gig of the year for me,CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Strange how Mr Hogarth is trying to push a Marillion single into the charts after all these years maybe he's been watching The Alarm go in at number 28 in the UK charts by fan power alone and is trying to do the same Good luck to Marillion anyway there about the most underated band on the planet, they consistently put out great albums but just dont get the airplay and promotion that could open the eyes of people who like great music and dont follow trends.I really wish i was going to the Marillion and Fish scottish dates as its been a while since i've seen them both i may yet.Fish always puts on a good show and seeing Marillion on the Brave tour was just amazing.Jester1470 i think i might just see you down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by Mordred:Strange how Mr Hogarth is trying to push a Marillion single into the charts after all these years maybe he's been watching The Alarm go in at number 28 in the UK charts by fan power alone and is trying to do the same Wouldn't surprise me, I think with Lucy Jordache ,who as well as being very cute is also a very good marketing manager has made a huge difference, they've made a lot of money on the preorder of the album, which was thie revolutionary idea that has allowed a lot of musicians to keep control of their work. This is now know as pulling a Marillion wiithin the industry. Interestingly enough Marillion actually stole the idea of preselling an album online to the fans in order to finance something was actually first used by Fish who sold the 'Candlelight in Fog' live album in order to finance his tour of the states which is where it was recorded.Originally posted by Mordred:Good luck to Marillion anyway there about the most underated band on the planet, they consistently put out great albums but just dont get the airplay and promotion that could open the eyes of people who like great music and dont follow trends. Yeah, probably got the most devoted fanbase of any band on the planet, there have been some classic moments of fanpower, such as when Simon Mayo slagged them off and there was such a strong reaction from fans that they crashed the servers and filled Simon Mayo's mailbox for days !! Or more impressively when the band mentioned that they couldn't afford to tour the States and the tour fund started out and raised $80,000 and just handed it to the band so they could tour the states and not lose money!! I can't think of any other band that has a fanbase that is las devoted. I went to the Convention last year and met people from all round the world including a guy who has sold his house and moved to a smaller one purely to finance the trip, complete madness, but there must be something special about a band who inspires this kind of loyalty. 13,000 people have spent 30gbp on a new double album so Marillion have the money to create a marketing campaign, you've got to be impressed. Originally posted by Mordred:I really wish i was going to the Marillion and Fish scottish dates as its been a while since i've seen them both i may yet.Fish always puts on a good show and seeing Marillion on the Brave tour was just amazing. Yeah Fish rates as the best consistent live performer I've seen, and having seen the Brave show twice it certainly was special, have you bought the live Brave convention video from 2 years ago ? It's a good video, as was the Afraid of Sunlight DVD which I watched for the first time in a year the other night, great show, and a record breaking DVD It's well worth getting the Fish Mixed Company DVD from Enschede where he plays the complete Misplaced Childhood gig, he's not at his best vocally, but a great show, and a great memory !!Originally posted by Mordred:Jester1470 i think i might just see you down there. I'd imagine you will, CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*rae* Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Cool isn't Fish playing at that festival in peterhead with Bob Geldof and co? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I don't actually know, he was one of the names I gave to the guy organising it, but never heard anything back, hope he is, he's great ona bigger stage, and it'd be great to go back out on the piss with him again, though he can outdrink anyone I know CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 This thread made me look at the Fish website and now my credit card has taken a denting.Cheers Jester:swearing: Oh and one of the purchases was the mixed cd and dvd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Ah yes, the fuck up in Garden Party on the CD is class, of course the crowd fucking up The Company is also a class moment. I've heard complaints about the sound etc. on the CD and DVD but I don't think it's too bad, it's all different from the way the stuff was originally done, but it was a great night out. I was lucky enough to be at the Enschede Gig with a free pass and so I got the soundchecks etc and it was a special weekend, not least to hear Misplaced Childhood 2 nights in a row. Also classic to hear the song State of Mind played with the great Jan Akkerman from Focus. It was an amazing weekend I personally thought the vocals weren't that bad, but then being there adds something, Hope you enjoy the shows they're damned good atmsphere, I'd put seeing Misplaced Childhood Live on a par with seeing Brave live CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I think I'll buy the CD, I've still not gotten into post-Fish Marillion, aparts from Seasons End which is an excellent album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 If you like Seasion's End look at maybe purchasing the Remastered 2 CD set of Clutching at Straws, it's a really good purchase and the unique opportunity to see what could have been for the album after Clutching, which is an interesting mix between Season's End's music and the lyrics of Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors, some of the post Fish work is superb but the only 3, I feel that stand up against the older stuff is Season's End, Brave and This Strange Engine, though I am intrigued by the new one, and I have to say that even the stuff I don't like is amazing live, one of the most amazing and atmospheric live bands. If you like Season's End you might want to try and get the 'From Stoke Row to Ipanema' DVD which has a documentary about the first year after Fish left and a complete Season's End tour date, which certainly had H at his best, as well as some great versions of the Fish era classics and great tracks like 'King of Sunset Town',CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Well it looks like this may be the last chance to see Fish doing a proper tour http://www.dprp.net/specials/fish0304/index.phpWhen I spoke to him last year when he was up here for Children in Need he did say that the chances are that this would be his last album, as he wanted to go out on a high, I was told not to say anything until it became public knowledge and I guess it has now He has said something similar in the past where he did in fact cut down dramatically from about 6 months of every year on tour to 3 months every 2 years, looks like with the way the music industry is this could be the end . I have my suspicions he'll do albums again, but it may take time before we see them Try and catch him whilst you can,CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 very sad news indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 When is the gig again? I might consider since it's his last. That interview is so fucking true about the music industry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I'm not 100% convinced its the last we'll ever see of him live, but certainly may be the last we see for some time, he's still talking about taking a Misplaced Childhood Tour next year, but then again, he may change his mind and not go out if he loses too much money on this tour. The dates (I think) are the 7th and 8th of April in Edinburgh and Glasgow, I'm definitely doing Glasgow, and trying to get Edinburgh sorted. Fish has certainly had a rough deal from the music industry. he pretty much lost all the money he earned in Marillion in a lawsuit against EMI, as well as that he's lost over half a million over the years with promoters going bust, etc. He doesn't have the best business mind. I know he only really makes money through his merch sales at gigs nowadays, sad but true, that must explain why I have about 30 Fish T-shirts and everything from mobiles to Fish Zippo's quite impressive as I don't smoke it's quite likely we may have space in the car for you if you need a lift back after the gig, might be a bit cramped, but cheaper than a train, but I'll need to speak to the driver, we may not have a lift down as we have to sort out a meeting with the head of Voiceprint when we're down.CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Jester I think you like Marillion as much as I like Devin Townsend or Mouse likes Iron Maiden:cheers: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Yeah but its not as sad to like Marillion or Iron Maiden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Originally posted by Mordred:Yeah , Devin rules the world Hog and so does your guitar playing!!!. Thanks Mordred!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Very strange?( , that mind expanding hard drugs last night has made me write aloud of shite about HOG DEV FUCKER on this thread.See above for example ?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by Mordred:Very strange?( , that mind expanding hard drugs last night has made me write aloud of shite about HOG DEV FUCKER on this thread.See above for example ?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Originally posted by hog dev fucker: Dont make it public Hog its meant to be our little secret :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Damn it, I wish I didnt type out loud:O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 On the subject of Marillion, I finally picked up Misplaced Childhood for 5. What an album this is, definately better than Fugazi. Will take more listens to see where it will find its place beside Script For A Jesters Tear & Clutching At Straws.NP: Blind Curve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Misplaced Childhood is the holy grail of Marillion albums for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Fish should do a one-off gig with Marillion so he can get some cash. He deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted March 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 A few years ago there was discussion about Fish and Marillion touring together, it got quite far and the plan was that they'd go out together, Fish would play an hour solo set, Marillion with Fish would play Misplaced Childhood, and then marillion with H would do Brave and then they'd duet on a greatest hits set, the plan was for a 4 hour set, it would have been spectacular. There were problems as they wouldn't give Fish money to pay his band but wanted them to tale money out of his share, meaning he would be considerably out of pocket. I've been lucky enough to see Fish performing Misplaced Childhood twice live with his band at the Enschede gigs a few years ago, as his voice has considerably changed they had to lower the tones etc but it was a spectacular 2 shows and was very magical to see it done. I also have a bootleg somewhere of Fish and Hogarth duetting together in a charity show playing Lavender. If Fish does keeps to his plans we may well see him next year taking his band out to do a 20th anniversary Misplaced Childhood Tour, but it'll probably be very few gigs.I love Misplaced but its got a bit to go to beat Clutching for me. Torch Song, Sugar Mice and Slainte Mhath are brilliant. Sometimes I can enjoy Fugazi but only if I'm in the right mood, and I prefer the rerecorded version Fish did of Incubus. Script has some magical moments like The Web and Chelsea Monday, but again, my favourite version of Chelsea Monday is an acoustic version Fish did a few years ago.Hope to see you guys at the FoC gig CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 I really can't choose between Script and Clutching At Straws because both albums are special on their own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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