thursday 16th March!!!tunnel's!!COPY HAHO>DEDALUS>COLONOPENBRACKET

[framheim]

yeah and don't think you stopped grinning for a good 15 minutes.

dedalus = again only the second time i had seen this band. i liked them the first time' date=' and really liked them this time. with being pretty new to the aberdeen "scene" i didn't know the song they played last but it sounded very cool and the emotion/excitment of the band and the crowd made it even better.

copy ho ha = they didn't top dedalus but seemed quite interesting/intriguing actually - will try and check them out in the future. a bit dull to listen to for the first time though.

anywayzzz - fun night.[/quote']

almost parallel(the last song dedalus played) was on our split ep with politik(the band now known as copy haho) and was always a crowd pleaser both live and in exodus. it was very fitting that copy haho and were playing, made it feel like a family affair to an extent.

also it's a shame that some people thought copy haho were dull. i'd have liked them to have played some of their more upbeat songs but aside from that they were good, particularly the tribute to the late neil insch

ach, it was all good. much dancing and drinking with friends to good bands and a good dj, what more can you ask for really?

[Guest Dedalus]

almost parallel(the last song dedalus played) was on our split ep with politik(the band now known as copy haho) and was always a crowd pleaser both live and in exodus.

Said EP is available in One Up Records for four of your measly british pounds and ninety nine pence.

[Guest Steven Dedalus]

In response to my little picture, I'm not supposed to look like Ned Flanders, but it sadly came out that way (even still, I liked it and was gutted that, for the sake of my relationship, I had to shave the ol' soup strainer off). I'm surprised that more people didn't pick up on the frankly ludicrous sideburns I grew out of sheer badness which made the moustache seem like a good idea. But there you go...

Anyway, my point being that I'm a style guru and I'm bringing the Ned Flanders/Neil Young look back into fashion. So there.

[trippinoneastereggs]

too right, already applying miracle grow to my top lip

[HummerOfIntenseEvil]

Don't see why people are jumping down Cloud's throat - he's complimenting colonopenbracket's ability to perform live, and he had to leave during Copy Ha_Ho cos he wouldn't have gotten a lift home otherwise! As for Dedalus, all he's really saying is that he preferred their old style of music, thus found it hard to look favourably upon their newer material, and I daresay he's not the only one. I certainly found the recent stuff less startling than the days when the songs built up to a huge wall of sound that left you standing there aghast, hence why Almost Parallel was a fantastic way to end the set (I have no idea how 6 people managed to fit on the Tunnels stage for that!) A few nice bits in some songs (I really liked Robert's guitar part in the opening song for instance), but nothing to match the songs from the split EP as far as I was concerned

Like Cloud though, I think it'd be easier to judge them fairly if they were by a completely different band.

As already said, it was undeniably a very fun night!

[framheim]

Don't see why people are jumping down Cloud's throat - he's complimenting colonopenbracket's ability to perform live' date=' and he had to leave during Copy Ha_Ho cos he wouldn't have gotten a lift home otherwise! As for Dedalus, all he's really saying is that he preferred their old style of music, thus found it hard to look favourably upon their newer material, and I daresay he's not the only one. I certainly found the recent stuff less startling than the days when the songs built up to a huge wall of sound that left you standing there aghast, hence why Almost Parallel was a fantastic way to end the set (I have no idea how 6 people managed to fit on the Tunnels stage for that!) A few nice bits in some songs (I really liked Robert's guitar part in the opening song for instance), but nothing to match the songs from the split EP as far as I was concerned

Like Cloud though, I think it'd be easier to judge them fairly if they were by a completely different band.

As already said, it was undeniably a very fun night![/quote']

i'm pretty sure it's cloud's usual ham fisted way of saying things that people are responding to, not just his opinion.

[Guest bluesxman]

Personally, when I joined the band and was handed CD's of stuff to become familiar with, I found the newer stuff to show more regard to variations in the song structure. Almost Parallel is a great tune though, no doubt. Perhaps people would have found the new stuff more acceptable if they had changed their name when the band members originally changed last year (summer?). Imagine if they had just written the same thing over and over, how dull that would have been for them after a while.

[Guest Steven Dedalus]

To be honest, part of the reason for the new material was because we'd been playing stuff like Almost Parallel and what not for about three years. When we started doing it, it was kinda cool because it was quite unfashionable. The only reference point (in a contemporary way) was Interpol, who released Turn on the bright lights just before our first gig. We'd written a few songs in that vein already and it was great to think that there was someone else out there doing that kind of stuff (especially cos they're from New York!). But the indie music scene changed a while after that and the sort of stuff we were doing became the norm (we were played in Exodus, for god's sake! And people danced to it! And at least three members of this band played air guitar parts to their own songs. You'll notice I said air guitar and not air bass.) We felt we needed a change, and to be fair, from my point of view, bands like the Little Kicks and Strozeck appeared and were doing that whole 80s inspired noise thing as well as we could ever do it. So it was nice to be able to listen to it for a change rather than have to play it. And the secret to how to get the old 'classic' Dedalus epic wall of noise thing is to get a delay pedal, a reverb pedal, turn them both up full and touch the strings. There wasn't too much more to it than that (other than my amazing arangements, of course).

PS. And in case anyone thinks I'm claiming we were musical trailblazers, I'm not. First of all, every song I ever did (with possibly a few examples) was inspired by something already done. I just changed it enough to make it unrecognisable (most of the time). And secondly, and more damningly, a lot of our early songs were complete rubbish and sounded like a cross between Tool (Rob's influence) and the Jesus and Mary Chain (my influence). Which did not sound good at all. Especially my bits.

[framheim]

To be honest' date=' part of the reason for the new material was because we'd been playing stuff like Almost Parallel and what not for about three years. When we started doing it, it was kinda cool because it was quite unfashionable. The only reference point (in a contemporary way) was Interpol, who released Turn on the bright lights just before our first gig. We'd written a few songs in that vein already and it was great to think that there was someone else out there doing that kind of stuff (especially cos they're from New York!). But the indie music scene changed a while after that and the sort of stuff we were doing became the norm (we were played in Exodus, for god's sake! And people danced to it! And at least three members of this band played air guitar parts to their own songs. You'll notice I said air guitar and not air bass.) We felt we needed a change, and to be fair, from my point of view, bands like the Little Kicks and Strozeck appeared and were doing that whole 80s inspired noise thing as well as we could ever do it. So it was nice to be able to listen to it for a change rather than have to play it. And the secret to how to get the old 'classic' Dedalus epic wall of noise thing is to get a delay pedal, a reverb pedal, turn them both up full and touch the strings. There wasn't too much more to it than that (other than my amazing arangements, of course).

PS. And in case anyone thinks I'm claiming we were musical trailblazers, I'm not. First of all, every song I ever did (with possibly a few examples) was inspired by something already done. I just changed it enough to make it unrecognisable (most of the time). And secondly, and more damningly, a lot of our early songs were complete rubbish and sounded like a cross between Tool (Rob's influence) and the Jesus and Mary Chain (my influence). Which did not sound good at all. Especially my bits.[/quote']

shush, you're meant to let everyone think it was hard work and creative talent! don't give away all the secrets!

[Pancho]

Irony strikes me that Dave Milne played Almost Parallel in Exodus on Steven (dedalus') Last Night in down to a crowd of 15 people including me an michael! we didnt dance. Ah well.

[Guest Les Stroszek]

bands like the Little Kicks and Strozeck appeared and were doing that whole 80s inspired noise thing as well as we could ever do it.

I think that 80s inspried thing is something we're trying to get way from too, I think there's some elements of that Interpol sound in a few of our songs, more in our more upbeat numbers, but we also do 7 minutes + songs and songs completly without guitars which the likes of Interpol don't! I quite like Interpol mind so its a compliment if people think any of our stuff sounds like them even though I don't think we do too much! We will be recording soon as our early demo is terrible and doesn't represent the band accurately now. When I was down in Glasgow a month ago Richey mentioned someting about us getting a gig in Belfast sometime later this year so if that came off it would be good if you came along and made your own mind up! I've also stated that I'd be keen to get a gig with the new version of Dedalus later in the year in Aberdeen as we have some similar influences but a different way of channelling them.

It was a good night I'd never seen the version of Dedalus before so it was good to see them too although I was disapointed that it was there last gig as I would have just prefared to have seen a standard gig. Got to say that Colon Open thingy were not really my thing but Dedalus were good although I wasn't too keen on the gabbering between songs though but thats just my own weird ideas about enjoying bands and you can be excused with it being your last show so please don't attack me for my opinions! I did like the keyboard players random noise on the last song which he had never played before. I would like to see more random improvisation like that in Aberdeen! The guitar sound of Dedalus has always impressed me most (about the band) and that was sounding good as ever. I couldn't stay to see Copy Ha Ho sadly as my lift home was leaving. All good fun anyway though.

[framheim]

i was watching back the vid of almost parallel the other day and me and the missus were both going "what's that noise? what's making that?" then i remembered hugh was bashing the keyboard, and i smiled.

as for improvisation in aberdeen, there certainly used to be plenty of it not least by dedalus. there was scrotal tunic, clive ravensby, sidca did an improv set once too i think at one of the sonic deth monkey improv nights and there was fear of jazz at drakes as well. my first ever gig with dedalus(and indeed any band) involved improvising a soundtrack to a film they'd made and we put together a couple of varied line ups for some improv gigs as well.

[Guest Les Stroszek]

I seen one of those Dedalus improv gigs back in Drakes in 2003 and I thought Sidca were great in Drakes on a Saturday night in 2004 to about 4 people at about 12pm whilst I indulged in some Vodka and Fake Bull. Its always good to change things when playing live and improvise a bit I think.

[Guest idol_wild]

A few nice bits in some songs (I really liked Robert's guitar part in the opening song for instance)' date=' but nothing to match the songs from the split EP as far as I was concerned

Like Cloud though, I think it'd be easier to judge them fairly if they were by a completely different band.[/quote']

You and your cronies just love the doom element of the old brooding Dedalus too much for your own good ;-)

[Guest Les Stroszek]

You and your cronies just love the doom element of the old brooding Dedalus too much for your own good ;-)

I don't think so he just gave his honest opinion. But hey maybe you're right they need to cheer up! Ha Ha!!!

[HummerOfIntenseEvil]

You and your cronies just love the doom element of the old brooding Dedalus too much for your own good ;-)

Well my favourite albums DO include The Holy Bible, Closer and Pornography after all

[Guest Les Stroszek]

And Don't It Make You Feel Good of course thats my favourite! All time classic they don't write them like that anymore etc etc...

[Cloud]

PS. And in case anyone thinks I'm claiming we were musical trailblazers' date=' I'm not. [/quote']

You should, I think.

To me anyway, Dedalus were something utterly different, they still remain the only band that's managed (with Almost Parallel) to create a wall of sound while being decent - so many people try it, but it's so, so rare to see a band that can make it *good*.

[Guest idol_wild]

Well my favourite albums DO include The Holy Bible' date=' Closer and Pornography after all [/quote']

So do mine. I love misery as much as the next man, but sometimes it's not so enjoyable to play.

[Guest Les Stroszek]

Hey I found a Slipknot album in his collection last night... Sometimes I despair! We're only pulling your leg about the misery thing though play what you feel like. Thats whats important.

[Cloud]

Hey I found a Slipknot album in his collection last night... Sometimes I despare! We're only pulling your leg about the misery thing though play what you feel like. Thats whats important.

you found WHAT?!

[stuartmaxwell]

the only band that's managed (with Almost Parallel) to create a wall of sound while being decent - so many people try it' date=' but it's so, so rare to see a band that can make it *good*.[/quote']

absolute bollocks

fucking hell. get out more. go to more touring band gigs

you will find much bigger and better "walls of sound"

[Cloud]

edit : no point posting anything in reply