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You really don't do yourselves any favours; as Steve Irwin said' date=' your whole band come across like a semi-literate circus troupe. I've yet to see you say, [i']"ok cool man, you dont like our music thats fine". I've been doing some background reading, and you take objection to AmbientMood's posts and start firing abuse in his direction every time his fingers hit the keyboard. Despite your attempts to paint him as the sole bearer of blame, you seem to be at least as guilty as he is. If you were really as chilled out as you're claiming, you'd just ignore him completely. In fact, if he really upsets you that much, you could put him on your Ignore List, which would solve the problem entirelyhis posts wouldn't appear at all for you.

Ironically, wasn't it you that said, "but hay all comments are constructive comments"? I believe it was, you said it on this thread. You really are rather inconsistent.

yes, but saying how terribal we are and how we will never make it ( not saying we will) is not a comment, its abuse. you really cant be looking very hard.

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You really don't do yourselves any favours; as Steve Irwin said' date=' your whole band come across like a semi-literate circus troupe. I've yet to see you say, [i']"ok cool man, you dont like our music thats fine". I've been doing some background reading, and you take objection to AmbientMood's posts and start firing abuse in his direction every time his fingers hit the keyboard. Despite your attempts to paint him as the sole bearer of blame, you seem to be at least as guilty as he is. If you were really as chilled out as you're claiming, you'd just ignore him completely. In fact, if he really upsets you that much, you could put him on your Ignore List, which would solve the problem entirelyhis posts wouldn't appear at all for you.

Ironically, wasn't it you that said, "but hay all comments are constructive comments"? I believe it was, you said it on this thread. You really are rather inconsistent.

sorry mate but i just had a look through my old thread (the one you have a link to) and nearly all my comments are "ok cool man thanks for cheching us out" or "fair dos" or "thats fine". so wise up eh? :down:

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I'm afraid, that in my opinion the only way anyone could seriously enjoy that noise is if they were fucked of their heads on ecstacy. That is truly terrible and is simply polluting the internet.

Not what you want to hear, I mean you probably put alot of effort into it - but i'm afraid it's just a horrible noise at the end of the day.

Why don't you use your keyboard and take up classical piano so that you can contribute to the music of the world instead of being a skidmark on the underpants of it?

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yes' date=' but saying how terribal we are and how we will never make it ( not saying we will) is not a comment, its abuse. you really cant be looking very hard.[/quote']

Perhaps. But you seem to be missing my point somewhat: I'm not admonishing him of blame, I'm drawing attention to the fact that "you're doing exactly the same to him". Granted, you dress it up as "just being a dick to show you what its like". How is that any better? To me, it looks like you're trying to give a (barely) morally valid veneer to what is effectively an excuse to enact revenge upon him for saying you're terrible and that you'll never make it.

And yeah, you're probably right that I wasn't "looking very hard". I didn't deem it worthy of too much investigation, but what I did see certainly didn't reflect you calmly shrugging off the negative comments as you claim you've done most of the time.

I'm afraid' date=' that in my opinion the only way anyone could seriously enjoy that noise is if they were fucked of their heads on ecstacy. That is truly terrible and is simply polluting the internet.

Not what you want to hear, I mean you probably put alot of effort into it - but i'm afraid it's just a horrible noise at the end of the day.

Why don't you use your keyboard and take up classical piano so that you can contribute to the music of the world instead of being a skidmark on the underpants of it?[/quote']

I'm far from "fucked out of my head on ecstacy", and I enjoyed it. Granted, you probably need to have a certain mindset/taste in music to appreciate it, but I don't think you could really describe it as "a skidmark". To my mind, it's more interesting than Ascension's stuff by quite a distance. Given the choice of listening to AmbientMood's entire uvre, or Ascension's, I can safely say I'd choose the former any day.

You have to be careful when arrogantly announcing it to be "simply polluting the internet"; your own music needs to be above all reproach, and as far as I've heard, your's is formulaic sub-Iron Maiden metal, which I don't think you could really herald as contributing anything to the music of the world.

To flatly denounce "Raydar Gaydar" as "just a horrible noise at the end of the day" is frankly ludicrous; appreciation of music is an entirely subjective field, so making flat statements like that are very, very dangerous, unless you're willing to totally and completely believe that your music taste is truly perfect and the yardstick by which all else should be measured.

If you want to hear some really "horrible noise", try listening to Merzbow or NON. Compared to both of these (both of whom I think are utterly fantastic), AmbientMood's music is positively tuneful.

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Why don't you use your keyboard and take up classical piano so that you can contribute to the music of the world instead of being a skidmark on the underpants of it?

Firstly' date=' every single person on this site, including you, would unanimously agree that classical piano is not the only way to contribute to music. Looking back, you will realise how pathetic that sounds. I don't even like 'classical' piano, gimme Satie.

This music I've shown you all is, as previously said, the most extreme thing (by a long way) I've ever done in the four years I've been recording music for. I'm pretty sure I've contributed a shitload more musically than you from [i']classical piano recitals to gigging with a rock band, recording electronica to playing several jazz gigs this year, and wait for it, violin at a school nativity play :D

Oh I've also had music on several different film productions - youth projects and more recently, a 30 minute educational film chartering quality beef production for the modern farmer. :gringo:

Not to mention jamming with all sorts of musicians where-ever and whenever possible, so suggesting I need to take up classical piano to try and contribute is almost insulting, but then I rewind and just laugh at the people who probably think you 'have-a-clue.'

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If you want to hear some really "horrible noise"' date=' try listening to Merzbow or NON. Compared to both of these (both of whom I think are utterly fantastic), AmbientMood's music is positively tuneful.

Not to mention Aphex's 'Help Aphex Twin.'

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Tell me' date=' find one post where you say somthing constructive. then i will shut up :down:[/quote']

AmbientMood in response to 'fucking ace songs by statue of misery' thread:

This band need to realise that no one on aberdeen music actually has an obligation to give a shit about them

I think thats good advice!

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as i said before i like this, but i do just generally like most things which actually make me stop and listen which is exactly what this track does, one thing which "sky" picked up on are pople who believe that there music taste is the becnhmark to measure all music by, i mean of course you are going to think that your own musical taste is the best because it is yours, but some people have to understand other people enjoy different things and not to slate something simply because it does not appeal to your musical taste, however good u think it is. I have this debate with my friend struan a lot of the time that could our own taste in music actually be shit? i mean i hate the killers for example yet so many people love them ( go to exodus any indie night and and youll see what i mean ), which in turn would show that i am in the minority, and maybe i need to step back and question my own taste in music before imposing it on other people? or maybe not :)

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Sky,

I really do think you were presenting yourself well, I mean - we were having a discussion, it's not got personal and its an expression of both our opinions. I mean, this is a rare thing on A-M, a calm discussion on Mood's piece of music. Ok, we disagree - but that's fair enough.

I really did think you to be a fairly well-spoken and valid person, until that is this utter gobshite remark came forth from your fingers:

...and as far as I've heard' date=' your's is formulaic sub-Iron Maiden metal, which I don't think you could really herald as contributing [i']anything to the music of the world.

I mean, have I read something incorrectly? This comment has completely voided your whole argument, and nullified your entire opinion exhaustively.

I henceforth demand that you retract this statement and apologise. If you do not, then you lose all respect that I, and anyone else who reads it may harbour for you/

We are sub-Iron Maiden metal? Are you serious? Have you even heard us and/or Iron Maiden?

Fucking ridiculous mate.

We are nothing like Iron Maiden, at all - not one song bears any resemblance at all to Iron Maiden. Even people who truly despise me and Ascension will agree with that point, simply because they are not completely retarded.

You, however, break the mould - and set a new low standard of intellectual diarrhoea.

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....i mean of course you are going to think that your own musical taste is the best because it is yours' date=' but you have to understand mr iron maiden that other people enjoy different things and not to slate something simply because it does not appeal to your musical taste... I have this debate with my friend struan a lot of the time that could our own taste in music actually be shit? i...[/quote']

Maybe someone should read my post again, and examine that words that I even highlighted in bold so that you would actually see them. I guess ignorance is bliss, here's an instant replay:

...that in my opinion...

He's asking for opinion on his song, and he got mine. End of.

No more of this "wahwah mr Iron Maiden" bullshit. I don't like Ambient's music style, I don't like the song, and that is the fact. Enough.

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yes i edited that out after i posted it as i thought it might upset you, i was reffering to you as mr iron maiden because of the last post, but after reading your post in reply to that one I took it out, i completely understand it is your opinion, my obvious mistake if i misread your comment, im not meaning to upset anyone so i fully apologise if i have offended you in anyway doc :)

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Enough with the bitching in this thread please. There seems to be some kind of tit for tat abuse thing that's been going on for a while. It's really boring and doesn't make any of you look particularly clever.

Back on topic. I like this. Not what I usually listen to but it's cool, laid back and had a good feel to it. Really liked the last bit with the cello.

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Sky' date='

I really do think you were presenting yourself well, I mean - we were having a discussion, it's not got personal and its an expression of both our opinions. I mean, this is a rare thing on A-M, a calm discussion on Mood's piece of music. Ok, we disagree - but that's fair enough.

I really did think you to be a fairly well-spoken and valid person, until that is this utter gobshite remark came forth from your fingers:

I mean, have I read something incorrectly? This comment has completely voided your whole argument, and nullified your entire opinion exhaustively.

I henceforth demand that you retract this statement and apologise. If you do not, then you lose all respect that I, and anyone else who reads it may harbour for you/

We are sub-Iron Maiden metal? Are you serious? Have you even heard us and/or Iron Maiden?

Fucking ridiculous mate.

We are nothing like Iron Maiden, at all - not one song bears any resemblance at all to Iron Maiden. Even people who truly despise me and Ascension will agree with that point, simply because they are not completely retarded.

You, however, break the mould - and set a new low standard of intellectual diarrhoea.[/quote']

To me, you sound like Iron Maiden. Metal fans I'm sure could distinguish a thousand groups within your sound, but to anyone else, Cling-ons are just as scary as orcs, so don't be offended as we are simply ignorant to your fad.

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good stuff here. i like this alot. like a real lot. i do see the whole 3 parts thing sky is refering too and pretty much agree with him. party one is very jilted but not in the way i like. thus making party one the weakest in my view. party two is pretty dancy and i like alot. maybe too straightforward dacy if you will but still damn cool. part three is nail on head for me though. grand stuff i tell ye. me likes a lot. cello part as mentioned before is good stuff. overal aye well impressed.

on the argument front though yea lets cut that shit out people. although will say AM was on the harsh side regarding SOM but to be fair it was really just harsh reality in the music world.....as has prob been said to you guys before, you will meet a lot worse people than him if you keep making music.

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whatever you know, your always gonna have to put up with the odd few but its usually worth it. dont listen to me or chi etc mood coz we aint into that kinda thing. best just to listen to ppl who know what to look for etc.

its easy to jump into a forum and just go "shit", but harder to actually explain why. or even harder to explain why you like something. so you should just be very greatful of the people who give you the old :up: and ignore the fuckers who give you the old :down: or :finger:

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How fuckin dare you rip the shit out of us' date=' with that synthisis peace of SHIT. its not even a song it a loop, spending five mins on pro tools can produce better sounds than that. all i can say is am very dissapointed in you mr Moon. i thought that you were so wise and wonderfull that you could rip off anyones music, but thats fuckin low.

i dont like your "song" very much Mr Moon.

:down::stupid::puke:[/quote']

Sorry but you are totally retarded, people like you are a blight on the "scene".

I think this track is cool, it's different, it's experimental, it's well produced, and if you can't see that then you are a pretty sad individual.

I'm sick and tired of the bullshit attitudes of some people on this forum towards music like this. It's actually depressing that there are so many narrow-minded individuals present here on what is supposed to be a MUSIC forum. Most of you don't give a fuck about music as an artform.

Good job, ambientmood, keep the tunes coming.

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I've got it running right now, really enjoying it actually. It's like nothing I would normally listen to, more out of not really having any knowledge of this kind of musc than going out of my way not to listen to it.

I'm loving the weird rhythmic ideas, i'm a big fan of odd time-sigs in all music and this certainly tickles me ;)

I'd be really interested in seeing how this kind of tune comes together, a friend of mine creates "similar" (probably totally different to a trained ear) music but entirely from samples but I'm guessing the process used by you is totally different? I'm intrigued, sorry if I come across like a total noob.

Can you recommend some listening along a similar line to this?

Thanks

Bugger, I've just typed all the way through the bloody track... oh well, play again! :D

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i didnt like it, but i appriciate that you have tried to do something thats unusual, and i applaude you for that. at least its not 3 chord punk. this is not my style of music, and i generaly found it lacking in melody and boering to the ear. im not here to offend you or start an argument, thats just my honest opinion.

but if you are going to post your song on this forum, realise that you are gonna have to sit back and take all that is said with a smile.

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I quite like it, not the greatest bit of electronica ive ever heard but its still pretty good. One criticism though i do think it tends to drone on a wee bit though.

I do hate myself for saying that but to be honest with you if i thought it was shit i would just let it go and not feel the need to slag the shit out of you!!!

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