Hog Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 The guitar is in tune until I get to the 12th fret. Any chords above this are out of tune. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Yip, it's called intonation.How you fix it depends on what kind of bridge you have.Let's see some pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Here's a decent article to get you started.http://www.fenderplayersclub.com/front_office/intonation.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted September 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Yip' date=' it's called intonation.How you fix it depends on what kind of bridge you have.Let's see some pics![/quote']I dont know how to take a photo.......lol, one sec Dusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fast Caz Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Yip i can see the problemIt aint got any spikes on it and its too bright . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Cool top. Is it a Schecter or something?Anyway, easy to fix as outlined in that article. Play an open string then play a harmonic at the 12th fret. If it is flat, you need to move it towards the neck, opposite for sharp.See how you get on, any problems I'll do it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted September 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Cool top. Is it a Schecter or something?Anyway' date=' easy to fix as outlined in that article. Play an open string then play a harmonic at the 12th fret. If it is flat, you need to move it towards the neck, opposite for sharp.See how you get on, any problems I'll do it for you.[/quote']Cool, thanks Dusty, I will give that a try.PS, it is a Shine guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Never heard of them, looks nice though, kind of a mix between Fender (body/neck/scale) and Gibson (pups/bridge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I only found about intonation after a live recording session when I was 15/16. Its a v. easy thing to do once you have done it a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gregor Ascension Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 the lenght between the the string should be halfed at the 12th fret, you need to move the bit were the string sits at the bridge until a harmonic at the 12th fret sounds exactly yhe same as the open string lower ocatave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest b-bert Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 how do you ajust intonation on a guitar fitted with a floyd-rose. I looks like it can only be moved in big steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Doesn't the truss rod help sort the intonation as well? My guitars have never really gotten so bad, and I've never took the time to learn what I'm really doing with bridge saddles etc... often a new pair of strings will sort out the problem for me anyway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Doesn't the truss rod help sort the intonation as well? My guitars have never really gotten so bad' date=' and I've never took the time to learn what I'm really doing with bridge saddles etc... often a new pair of strings will sort out the problem for me anyway....[/quote'] The truss rod will affect the intonation but if your action is OK, which is what the truss rod is for really, it shouldn't be a major factor. Learn about saddle bridges though, your ears (and everyone elses) will love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 how do you ajust intonation on a guitar fitted with a floyd-rose. I looks like it can only be moved in big steps.on my guitar at least (a bc rich with licensed floyd) the intonation is adjusted by loosening the bolt holding the saddle in place (under the string on front of the saddle) and moving itDoesn't the truss rod help sort the intonation as well? My guitars have never really gotten so bad' date=' and I've never took the time to learn what I'm really doing with bridge saddles etc... often a new pair of strings will sort out the problem for me anyway....[/quote']the truss rod will inadvertantly affect the intonation, but you cant set it using the truss rodthe truss rod is for setting the curve of the neck (and therefore the action) by adding/removing tension in the neck against the strings - if you change the curve of the neck you will slightly change the string length affecting the intonationto set intonation properly, you need to move the bridge saddles forwards/backwards slightly, make sure the open string is in tune, then check how in tune the 12th fret and 12th fret harmonic are, then you can move the saddle back/forth to make sure they are all in tunenot all guitars let you set the intonation, fender style bridges do, as do gibson tuneomatic style ones, but some like the prs wraparound ones wont let you change individual saddles, only the whole bridge if you want to learn more about setting up a guitar, there is an excellent book by dan erlwhine called how to make your electric guitar play great amazon link here which takes you through evrythign you should need to know about setting up a guitarthere will be websites about it too, but i cant remember any good ones off the top of my headDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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