jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I would be one of those passing socialists.Yet you can't really argue with Hitler, pragmatically, if you weren't a jew, a socialist or a gypsy things would be pretty darn good. Goering was a smart man too, my favourite nazi as it were, his Nuremberg defence was ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I would be one of those passing socialists.Yet you can't really argue with Hitler' date=' pragmatically, if you weren't a jew, a socialist or a gypsy things would be pretty darn good. Goering was a smart man too, my favourite nazi as it were, his Nuremberg defence was ace.[/quote']Yes...I have to say that despite the argument of "They took our jobs" - refer to Southpark. I in no way agree with what happened to you if you were a gypsy or a jew. I mean, as much as I disagree with Socialism... I wouldn't wish that upon anyone... I'd maybe like to shout at a socialist... or brainwash a few... but that's about it.*doesn't like violence*I was more interested by the engineered breeding system and the amazing advances in medicine they made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Well they had to do something with all those bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 you made me smile!Thankyou True.... I mean they did some awful stuff to twins... (they did a lot of awful stuff) but hey... looking at the big picture they advanced medical science by about 50 years in only a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I'd win for sureThink about it. I'm just the best and you're all smelly dregs(Not Birdsh*t) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 you made me smile!Thankyou True.... I mean they did some awful stuff to twins... (they did a lot of awful stuff) but hey... looking at the big picture they advanced medical science by about 50 years in only a few.End justifies the means eh?[image removed by moderator] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 End justifies the means eh?Go home Kant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Go home Kant.Up yours, cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Way to dampen the mood. Here's me thinking we could have a fuzzy chat about morality and you break out the C word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 there is no moral discussion in the Nazi-example.Slaughtering millions and engaging in ethnic cleansing is not justifiable, regardless of the supposed advances made in medical science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranzmute Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I would be one of those passing socialists.Yet you can't really argue with Hitler' date=' pragmatically, if you weren't a jew, a socialist or a gypsy things would be pretty darn good. Goering was a smart man too, my favourite nazi as it were, his Nuremberg defence was ace.[/quote']also if you wernt mentally ill, disabled, different in any way, u'd be ok hey. WISE UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 No one said what Hitler did was jusitifiable thanks, only that he had some good ideas regarding the running of Germany, sadly they were outweighed by the other ideas... and you might wanna take that pic down before a moderator does it for you.getting too big for your boots again, just cos you poay a couple of quid a month doesn't make you some kind of site auditor, stick to being an attention seeking self publicist, it's what you do besOh fuck off, please. I'm not trying to be a site auditor, no thanks, but if you stick up photos of holocaust victims and expect it not to be taken down then you're obviously pretty stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 No one said what Hitler did was jusitifiable thanks' date=' only that he had some good ideas regarding the running of Germany, sadly they were outweighed by the other ideas... and you might wanna take that pic down before a moderator does it for you.[/color']Who died and put you in charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 There is always room for moral discussion. If you had been born during the crusades you might have been brought up to think that jumping on arab skulls was acceptable moral behaviour. Morality, regardless of what Kant thinks, has always been a revolutionary creature. Now i'm not going to say that I think the Nazi's did a good job or what not, but the only reason I am going to say that is because they lost. If they had won they would have been moral crusaders and we would all relish their memory. Don't be so naive, although I don't generaly like you, you're not as stupid as most of the people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 also if you wernt mentally ill' date=' disabled, different in any way, u'd be ok hey. WISE UP[/quote']Put it into context, the majority of people were fine. Thats why no one bothered to revolt. Big ups to Rosa Luxemberg and crew but they were destroyed because popular support was with the Nazi's. I'm not agreeing with what the Nazi's did, but if you look at it in a purely pragmatic way, it was rather ingenious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 No more pictures of holocaust victims on this thread' date=' please.Or any other thread, come to that.[/quote']sure thing, perhaps ill advised, but a lot of people seem to find it terribly easy to forget the horrors of history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I think the horrors of history blur into the horrors of human nature, and focusing on one period of time and dismissing it as evil isn't going to help us address whats wrong with that nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranzmute Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Put it into context' date=' the majority of people were fine. Thats why no one bothered to revolt. Big ups to Rosa Luxemberg and crew but they were destroyed because popular support was with the Nazi's. I'm not agreeing with what the Nazi's did, but if you look at it in a purely pragmatic way, it was rather ingenious.[/quote']What ingenious????? in sadistic, disturbed and depraved way.?Read up on the childcare practices of pre-nazi Germany and you will find the cause mate. people used to beat their babies...in order to give them "control" over their emotions. Hay presto the same generation turn into cold sadistic killers/ Thers nothing ingenious about it ...it s depraved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluesxman Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 sure thing' date=' perhaps ill advised, but a lot of people seem to find it terribly easy to forget the horrors of history.[/quote']Damn how did this thread get so nasty, it was supposed to be for everyone who knows each other to find out who wanted who in a Big Brother house together, as with the who fancies who thread! I await the 'which forum members would you like to be stuck on a desert island with?' thread..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girl's Not Grey Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 how did this turn into a thread about the holocaust?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I think the horrors of history blur into the horrors of human nature' date=' and focusing on one period of time and dismissing it as evil isn't going to help us address whats wrong with that nature.[/quote']Absolutely, and I would be equally as condemnatory of anyone who tried to tell me the Khmer Rouge were a decent bunch of guys really, if you kind of look beyond the genocide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 how did this turn into a thread about the holocaust?? That's what i wanna know! I just clicked a few pages back and everyone is talking about what a dick Hitler was?Has he signed up here and someone suggested him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 no, he reincarnated himself as a blonde fascist from Ythanbank.Nobody ever suspects them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girl's Not Grey Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Ythanbank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I think it was the misjudged "the nazis weren't all bad" comments that made this thread get all serious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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