see! this IS a thread about pedal wanking cleverly disguised as one about pedal boards. the fact that harmony central has a 500+ page thread about pedal boards says a lot about people who visit harmony central. from now on if someone is posting a picture of their pedal board they should remove the pedals first and see if it's still worth talking about. "cool man, nice tolex, I got mines modded so that the handle was even comfier than the stock version. now I can hear my money going that little bit further when I lift up all my pedals at once."