you annoy me, all you ever do is go on about the "old days" and how great they were from what i could tell, the "old days" were gash, the gigs were boring all-local band line ups, the same bands and the same old faces that went to gigs. correct me if im wrong, but i think things have changed a lot now, and for the better! there might be less of an insular music scene, but in terms of the quality acts coming to aberdeen for the first time (and coming back) thanks to the likes of RFR/moshulu, interesting music promotions, arkade, GFN, the tunnels etc things are better than they ever have been. lots of new faces coming to shows, more venues, more diversity and more risks taken which brings me to my point.....in essence there are less "scenesters" and more music loving people going to gigs. from what i have noticed a lot of people who actually go to gigs regularly barely use this board perhaps these "scenester thingys" that you talk of are the keyboard jockeys that post on here but never actually go to gigs unless their friends are playing, a la popnotmyface etc