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oi dude, you still got those tickets for sale?

not sure what mighty teckle means but if you mean shit hot your damn right... they played a blinding set bookended by corduroy and dalliance with david lynch's twin peaks epic 'falling' in the middle... brilliant!!!!!

I can and I did. People who are prepared to pay for it are out of pocket. Why should they have to pay for it when others who are no better than them don't? People who have paid for it to be created are out of pocket. If it was free to produce an albums worth of songs then there would probably be no problem but its not free. Money is spent on rehearsals and equipment and studio time and mastering and promotion. Smaller music stores who rely on sales to generate income are out of pocket. If people arn't prepared to pay for larger artists work they definately wont pay for smaller lesser known artists. CDs will stay on shelfs and stores will shut down. Companies who are providing you access to millions of high quality downloads are out of pocket. They employ staff who have to maintain files and systems and those staff will eventually loose jobs if there is no revenue. Theft of any kind is a fact of life. The fact that a music track isnt a physical object doesn't make any difference, it still has a price tag and there are still laws governing its purchase and use. Perhaps we should deal with and work round petty shop thieves too. i'm sorry, your right ... perhaps i'v misinterpreted the meaning of shoplifting... "To steal (articles or an article) from a store that is open for business." or "The stealing of anything from a shop." no... no thats what i thought... but perhaps you could say that they arn't being downloaded from the online store but from a torrent site, however there is no doubt of the legallity... so in actual fact 'receiving stolen goods' is proabably a closer analogy... my apologies to anyone who downloads illegally and was offended by being likened to a shoplifter... after careful consideration a person who downloads illegally is actually more like a pikey...

and people who are actually paying for the music they listen to... and yes they could download illegally too, but they dont... and you know why?... because its illegal!!! downloading albums or songs illegally is no better than shoplifting, it forces prices up and it leaves companies large and small out of pocket (i'm sure the good people of local independant music shops world wide are over the moon that people think they have made enough money over the years...) and as a musician who has music for sale both online and on good 'old fashioned' compact disc, and in relation to someone else's comments earlier, I can say that I'm also happy to give away cd's and provide free downloads to get my music heard... but that should be my desicion to make as the artist and certainly not someone sitting at home, too cheap to pay 79 pence for unlimited use of a song i'v taken time and money to produce...

I hardly think CD packaging can be compared to breakfast cereal packaging... after you've listened to a CD do you just throw the packaging away???? of course books and magazines are also mass produced, and you could find the content online if you wanted and cut out the need to buy the actual product... yet an awful lot of people do go out and buy the actual products... why cant buying a cd and having the artwork and content on your shelf be any different... and to be fair there a lot of people who are into packaging design be it frosties or not, theres nothing sad about admiring something your genuinelly interested in...

that would probably sound more impressive if you hadn't had bands and venue staff waiting for you and the touring band to turn up for soundcheck, which ended up running two hours late... and if any of the above had any information about running times or the bizzarre curfew...

but boy, could that guy dance...

They should have got the 'lorelei' to play the opening weekend... nothing says 'lemon tree's heyday' than one of the top bands from that time... plus they are a local band, relevant to the scene and the past few times they played the lemon tree (during the 'return of the lorelei') the place was packed and the atmosphere was exactly the same as it used to be... but shooglenifty?!?!? really?....

dunno if they are available, or if you can get a hold of them, or if they are eligable but cuddly shark would be an awsome fit for cats and cats and cats.... i'm just saying....

...couldnt get woodbug then, no?

there's a joke in there somewhere... but i'll be dammned if i'm the one to say it...

is that your band 'sign out'...? "glad you had a 'goodnight'..."?

...ABSOLUTELY!!! when you free???? incidentally, have you seen transformers animated yet?.... its awsome!!!

me too..... hoorah... if i'm sitting anywhere near you could you please follow through with any standing applause plans this time... i feel you let the side down a little at transformers...

...smiling so hard his poor face is turning red.... poor smiling face, he must be very happy indeed!!!

here, you've missed out the second 'h' in eighth..... just thought i'd mention it before you visit the printers...

oooooooooo, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

^^^^nice choice of photo for demonstrational purposes...^^^^

to be fair tho, if you had left the post up, no one would have been in any doubt of your intended point...

woah!!! its this saturday coming!!!! hey you!!! yeah you, you should definately go!!! cool-o

not me, although i spotted a spider (8)legging-it accross the bathroom this morning...

the fudge awards have been held in moshulu before... a couple of times i think, as well as numerous times in the lemon tree and now the tunnels... the bands have always been of a high calibre or relevant to the scene... turn outs usually consist of bands, promoters, venue staff and fans of the 'scene' and relevant artists... its a good way of introducing yourself and a chance to build a community amongst the bands that are gigging at that time... but lets say it was invite only... who decides who is invited?... what about the bands who dont post on here, who tells them?... lets say that 50% of the bands nominated dont turn up (more likely 75% ) who fills the empty spaces? ...creating an 'invite only' affair would probably isolate rather than encourage young or new bands not to mention bands who are already established who may not get an invite due to them not 'being relevant'... and lets not forget, the purpose of the fudge awards, like any fudgenight is to generate money to (presumably) continue putting on shows and events... if no-one pays at the door, who pays the promoters?... the ideas you have put forward are great but in one way or another have been done and re-hashed in the past... and at the end of the day this is the fudge awards... you wouldnt call up a bar you havnt been to and say "i think your bar would be better if you put in a jukebox" or call up a band you've never seen and say "your act would be better if your songs were longer"... i just think you should see it for yourself before you pass judgements... and the danger of changing the one 'big' ongoing night that is already established amongst the scene is that its left damaged and people loose interest... thats why I think there is always room for other events... just leave our fudge alone!!! (i am saying that in mock protest, i'm not for one second suggesting your comments werent welcome) also as a side note eric euan have played the fudge awards before (as well as countless fudgenights going back as long as the nights themselves) and are certainly not strangers to the outside world... (incedentaly we're on tour again this summer, taking in the lovely south of england)... 'live at the moorings' album out later this year (also on the jukebox at the moorings) as well as a re-issue of the first three e.ps (available on cd and download) and a new album also for later in the year... but enough self promotion...

with all due respect I think that maybe you are missing the point... the boys from fudge have been promoting the aberdeen music scene for years and years and have been musicians (sic) for even longer....their nights are as much of an institution as any band or club aberdeen has had to offer in as many years and have outlasted some of aberdeen's finest... without the boys tireless work, countless bands, for better or for worse, wouldn't even had made it off the starting grid let alone outside aberdeen or onto the radio or whatever and as such the 'scene' and its individuals (past, present and future) owe a great deal of thanks to them... i'v been privvy to good nights and bad but the fudgenights have continued, in their many forms, against all the odds... when others were giving up fudge were carrying on... its just a bit rude to suggest that what they do might not be good enough and that it could be done better... this IS what they do... and its pretty damn good!!!! i just think that, given the tone of some of your comments, offering suggestions about how fudge could better an event you've never been to, to people who attend them every year isnt going to meet much enthusiasm... no one can fault you for your enthusiasm and passion and if you feel strongly about your suggestions why not organise your own night or help promote bands in a way that you feel would be more benificial...

puts some on youtube?!?! ... that was sooo long ago, were there even video camera's back then?... plus, and this is far more serious... WHENAREYOUGONNARECORDNEEDMEANDPROVIDEMEWITHACOPY!!!!! sheesh, iv asked nicely enough times.... xx