ok... in response to a few people on here. "angel o' death," ALex from atreyu aint miming the singing bits...you see the drummer singing them but Alex is just singing along in the video...like he does when they play live he mouths the words...just like i do when someone else in my band sings or screams...like alot of frontmen do! In the atreyu video, they arent trying to pass alex off as singing the melodic parts. I think its obvious to be honest. Jim (new disorder,) what is your problem with everything GOOD musically nowadays. Basically it seems to me that if something is pretty good then you dont like it. Its sad man. What do you listen to nowadays: Death threat and stretch armstrong?? Nothin personal...just what i see really. Dan: Views are spot on about BFMV. I find the structures of the songs quite refresing though. Simple is refreshing nowadays sopmetimes. NOT SCOTT