soundian Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 When will you get it into your thick scull that they can be in Aberdeen any time they want as some of them live here. Similarly they can gather in groups in cities around the UK any time they want. They dont need to trick people into letting them do that. They can cause chaos and carnage as you put it any time they like' date=' and they certainly dont need the TV to give them publicity to get their NF friends to come along as they have a well organised communication system through NF websites, publications, etc. [/quote'] I don't think the message was meant for people WITHIN their communications network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 but I now realise your just stupid. It's all relative, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Indeed. So small as to be insigificant and perhaps even laughable. Now they have 100 times the publicity' date=' made all you counter demo guys look like idiots and they're still going to be in Aberdeen on the same day, unsupervised, uncontrolled and, it has to be said, far harder than the counter demo people, who for the most part are decent people unused to physical violence. I might even come along that day myself to watch the chaos and carnage.[/quote']So small as to be insignificant? There was talk of 200 NF thugs attending from across the country.And by the way, we were in the midst of a discussion via pm were we not? So what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 I don't think the message was meant for people WITHIN their communications network.Who was it meant for then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 When will you get it into your thick scull that they can be in Aberdeen any time they want as some of them live here. Similarly they can gather in groups in cities around the UK any time they want. They dont need to trick people into letting them do that. They can cause chaos and carnage as you put it any time they like' date=' and they certainly dont need the TV to give them publicity to get their NF friends to come along as they have a well organised communication system through NF websites, publications, etc. You suggest they now have 100 times the publicity but there is absolutely no evidence of this and in fact they have less as there will be no march and thus no publicity for that march. They may get publicity if they cause trouble but they can do that any time they like, something you clearly dont understand. What they dont have, as a result of not being allowed to march, is the supposed credibility that being allowed to march would have given this group of thugs.You keep suggesting there is this conspiracy, at first I thought this was because you were simply misguided, or simply trying to undermine those who sought to stop the march, but I now realise your just stupid. You have shown evidence or even any kind of logical argument as to why or how your conspiracy is in fact a reflection of reality other really quite laughable hearsay.[/quote']I'd take you more seriously if you could spell and use proper grammar. You call ME thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 So small as to be insignificant? There was talk of 200 NF thugs attending from across the country.And by the way' date=' we were in the midst of a discussion via pm were we not? So what happened?[/quote']Again I apologise. I've not received any PMs since the last one of yours I responded to. Obviously a problem somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 I'd take you more seriously if you could spell and use proper grammar. You call ME thick.As usual not prepared to engage in actual debate; you just post opinion and prove unwilling or incapable of actually backing that opinion up when challanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 As usual not prepared to engage in actual debate; you just post opinion and prove unwilling or incapable of actually backing that opinion up when challanged.challanged????? Sorry dont know the word. If you mean challenged, what gives you the impression you're capable of challenging me on any level?You've proven yourself to be naive, stupid and ignorant. You tell me why should I bother debating with you at all?I suggest you take some lessons from All systems Fail. He is erudite, concise, impassioned and intelligent. Oh and learn to spell and use at least the rudiments of grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flossie T Sheep Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 the NF march isn't going ahead, wasn't that what all the activists on here wanted?well done, you got your wish so why keep going on about it?sounds to me like you won the battle to stop them marching but lost the war to stop them getting the publicity they seek so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 the NF march isn't going ahead' date=' wasn't that what all the activists on here wanted?well done, you got your wish so why keep going on about it?sounds to me like you won the battle to stop them marching but lost the war to stop them getting the publicity they seek so much [/quote']What I've been saying all along. Hear hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 What I've been saying all along. Hear hear.So you wont answer any of the points I raised or the questions I asked because you dont think my spelling or grammar is up to scratch? Well that is very big of you. You must be proud of your self. You can spell, well done. Now all you need to do is learn how to use your language skills to actually defend and explain the opinions you express on this public forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flossie T Sheep Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 you know what i find very amusing Mr. Monkey, you have a picture of Mao Tse-Tung as your avatar, wasn't Chairman Mao a person whose staunch left-wing ideals turned him into a dictator who tried to make everyone think and act and live the same way and ended up killing lots of people in adopting such a process?there's democracy in action eh?, forcing people at gunpoint or threatening them with execution to think the same as you! i can never understand why Chairman Mao is held up to be some kind of socialist hero when he was no better than Pol Pot, anyone who was regarded as an intellectual or who was wealthy in some way or were just someone who would possibly be identified as a threat to any of the ideals he tried to dictate over people would be executed or imprisoned!haha and of course other things he also did was force people to work in mines or in fields and if they wouldn't do so, they would be executed or imprisoned for being "dissidents", he also if my memory serves me correctly from the documentaries i have seen about him, also closed down schools and universities and forced people to either becoming farmers or soldiers or bodyguards to protect his government and keep him in power hahahhahahahaha! i love the irony in your avatar matey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 you know what i find very amusing Mr. Monkey' date=' you have a picture of Mao Tse-Tung as your avatar, wasn't Chairman Mao a person whose staunch left-wing ideals turned him into a dictator who tried to make everyone think and act and live the same way and ended up killing lots of people in adopting such a process?there's democracy in action eh?, forcing people at gunpoint or threatening them with execution to think the same as you! i can never understand why Chairman Mao is held up to be some kind of socialist hero when he was no better than Pol Pot, anyone who was regarded as an intellectual or who was wealthy in some way or were just someone who would possibly be identified as a threat to any of the ideals he tried to dictate over people would be executed or imprisoned!haha and of course other things he also did was force people to work in mines or in fields and if they wouldn't do so, they would be executed or imprisoned for being "dissidents", he also if my memory serves me correctly from the documentaries i have seen about him, also closed down schools and universities and forced people to either becoming farmers or soldiers or bodyguards to protect his government and keep him in power hahahhahahahaha! i love the irony in your avatar matey[/quote']No I think you will find I have an Andy Warhol picture as my Avatar. But thank you for the potted history of Mao. And anyway you seem to be suggesting that I cannot discuss democracy or am a hypocrite for doing so because of my Avatar. I have to say, thats is just a fucking stupid argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 No I think you will find I have an Andy Warhol picture as my Avatar. But thank you for the potted history of Mao. And anyway you seem to be suggesting that I cannot discuss democracy or am a hypocrite for doing so because of my Avatar. I have to say' date=' thats is just a fucking stupid argument.[/quote']Perhaps you should have used the Campbell's Soup one instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Perhaps you should have used the Campbell's Soup one instead?But then how could I ever argue about soup with any authority!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flossie T Sheep Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 No I think you will find I have an Andy Warhol picture as my Avatar. But thank you for the potted history of Mao. And anyway you seem to be suggesting that I cannot discuss democracy or am a hypocrite for doing so because of my Avatar. I have to say' date=' thats is just a fucking stupid argument.[/quote']don't worry i don't blame you, i blame your parents i am suggesting nothing at all, i think you're trying to seek an "fucking stupid" argument within a "fucking stupid" non-argument and yes i knew it was an Andy Warhol artprint too, if i need an education in the history of pop art, i don't think i will be calling on yourself for a lecture, your lectures are tiresome enough as it is and i usually get enough sleep at nights thanks very much thanks for your charming reply. your shining wit and political fervour continue to impress me greatly but despite those compliments, i am sure you'll be able to find an argument in there somewhere best wishes,el flosso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 don't worry i don't blame you' date=' i blame your parents i am suggesting nothing at all, i think you're trying to seek an "fucking stupid" argument within a "fucking stupid" non-argument and yes i knew it was an Andy Warhol artprint too, if i need an education in the history of pop art, i don't think i will be calling on yourself for a lecture, your lectures are tiresome enough as it is and i usually get enough sleep at nights thanks very much thanks for your charming reply. your shining wit and political fervour continue to impress me greatly but despite those compliments, i am sure you'll be able to find an argument in there somewhere best wishes,el flosso [/quote']Well dont post about me if you dont want a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flossie T Sheep Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Well dont post about me if you dont want a reply.more democracy in action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 To be honest, rather than debating this matter maturely you're both just acting like a couple of kids. If you want to keep debating it then try and do it without the jibes of "are you trying to give me the history of " etc, otherwise just drop it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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