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Secondsmile + The Ocean Fracture

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Me, definitely. I really like Secondsmile, i almost put them and Jairus on in Aberdeen about 4 years ago though they canceled the tour as they were offered a good support slot, can't remember who it was though.

Anyway, i will go. :up:

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i saw they were looking for shows and was going to get round to telling you. but yes... go for it beth. i love TOF, and from what ive heard of secondsmile they seem good too. need to get my hands on their new release... is it out yet?

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I believe it was the fall of troy they got the tour support with last time they were due to come to scotland

Yeah, thats right. i found my old emails last night.

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' date=' post: 466531"']i need to get my hands on their new release... is it out yet?

Not yet. June I think. The new stuff on the myspace seemed pretty good. I look forward to it. Wish The Ocean Fracture would release some of their new stuff.

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Wish The Ocean Fracture would release some of their new stuff.

Seconded. They've got their artwark back from seldon hunt. from what i saw it looks pretty cool. don't exactly know what it is for though... an album, ep, split?

they're in the studio again soon to record... something.

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knew you'd be on the case Rossco. just went and bought it myself. by the way... shotgun that maths/throats tee if you havnt got it already. :) i'm still undecided over it, but i thought i would shotgun it anyway.

the TOF artwork is frigging awesome. reckon its seldon hunts best yet (of what ive seen). and the songs are there best stuff yet, the old stuff wandered a bit, this stuff is total direct. excellent.

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' date=' post: 466538"']knew you'd be on the case Rossco. just went and bought it myself. by the way... shotgun that maths/throats tee if you havnt got it already. :) i'm still undecided over it, but i thought i would shotgun it anyway.

the TOF artwork is frigging awesome. reckon its seldon hunts best yet (of what ive seen). and the songs are there best stuff yet, the old stuff wandered a bit, this stuff is total direct. excellent.

Seconding the artwork. :up: Glad to see he's drifted away from the classic symmetrical stuff that he used to do for ISIS, Neurosis etc. They were getting a bit samey. The tunes are indeed excellent. :)

You're welcome to that tee Mr. Huw. I'm not even sure what the black ball thing is (a birds nest?), but I'm not really a fan. One of the guys from Phoenix Bodies designed it.

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Guest treader.

secondsmile, along with jairus have descended into the realms of "boring" with their last releases.

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"I Am not Romeo, You are not Juliet" is a BRILLIANT E.P but their new album stinks.

"Need to change the mapmaker" was fantastic. now they're shit too.

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"I Am not Romeo, You are not Juliet" is a BRILLIANT E.P but their new album stinks.

"Need to change the mapmaker" was fantastic. now they're shit too.

I agree on the Secondsmile EP, it's great, but I didn't see them topping it. I could see them rehashing ideas and sounding bland, had they continued with that kinda stuff. The old singer was a bit of a herbert I believe - refusing to play shows, leaving half-way through sets and just general tittery. I really enjoy "Walk Into The Light...". The new stuff either sounds a bit pedestrian, or really good. I'll buy the album when it comes out.

There are some TUNES on the first Jairus album, but that kickdrum sound is a crime against humanity. Hopefully they'll release that 2nd album.

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nah, the kick drum sounds great on that album. really suits the sound imo.

esp in Ara Pacis.

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"I Am not Romeo, You are not Juliet" is a BRILLIANT E.P but their new album stinks.

Man, I HATE that EP. sounded like days of fucking december and other such garbage of that time. "walk..." is far better imo, proper tunes and intelligent songwriting. better vocals too.

"Need to change the mapmaker" was fantastic. now they're shit too.

never liked Jairus, the early stuff was bearable but i thought "need to change the drummer and adjust that kickdrum level" was gash

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Opinions are like arseholes...

I don't like that EP either. Album was a much better selection of songs written to a higher standard with a lot more care taken on the recording side of it.

Jairus were ok. Not exactly the cutting edge of anything really.

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nah, the kick drum sounds great on that album. really suits the sound imo.

esp in Ara Pacis.

Listen to the first 20 seconds of track 8, "Spindley". Pure rotten. The "click" kick drum sound does my head in.

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