Demon Of The Fall Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 anyone else see this gig last night in glasgow?i thought it was fantastic but anathema should have gotten more than half an hour set time the best thing about prog gigs is the 50 year old Pink Floyd fans "moshing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 anyone else see this gig last night in glasgow?i thought it was fantastic but anathema should have gotten more than half an hour set time the best thing about prog gigs is the 50 year old Pink Floyd fans "moshing" I thought about going down, I can't stand Porcupine Tree, Steve Wilson is a major twat, hiowever a friend of mine (and the nicest guy in music) John Wesley plays touring guitar for them. Wes is a brilliant guy and a great guitarist. I would have went down, cash permitting, to see him, real shame he didnt have his solo set supporting them. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted April 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I thought about going down' date=' I can't stand Porcupine Tree, Steve Wilson is a major twat, hiowever a friend of mine (and the nicest guy in music) John Wesley plays touring guitar for them. Wes is a brilliant guy and a great guitarist. I would have went down, cash permitting, to see him, real shame he didnt have his solo set supporting them. CheersStuart[/quote']yeah Wes is a fantastic guitarist, and looks exactly like Tony Iommi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 yeah Wes is a fantastic guitarist' date=' and looks exactly like Tony Iommi [/quote']Nah, Wes is Jesus Wes was Fish's ex guitarist, I remember one drunken night in Haddington when Fish was playing there when the whole pub erupted in cries of 'Who let the Wes out' Wes looked very scared , Wes also got his first UK dates supporting Marillion who he guitar tech'd for in 94. His solo stuff is absolutely superb, I have all his solo albums and most of the live bootlkegs.url:rtsp://www.john-wesley.com:554/chasingmonsters/04.rm - velvet dreamsNew Wes album out via Racket in the next few weeks CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 yeah Wes is a fantastic guitarist' date=' and looks exactly like Tony Iommi [/quote']Nah Wes is the spitting image of Jesus:Well if Jesus playedgreat guitar CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeenat Aman Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Was Jesus black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Jester, your the biggest name dropper in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 we saw them unloading the trailer...our car was stuck behind it for like 20mins while they unpacked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Jester' date=' your the biggest name dropper in the world. [/quote']Jealousy Mr Hog, want me to ask Wes if you can have a guitar lesson You were meant to text me today baldyCheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Jealousy Mr Hog' date=' want me to ask Wes if you can have a guitar lesson You were meant to text me today baldyCheersStuart[/quote']get him to tell steve wilson not to bother talking inbetween songs, its only a matter of time before he starts to sound like a moody english teacher when the crowd shout too many things at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 get him to tell steve wilson not to bother talking inbetween songs' date=' its only a matter of time before he starts to sound like a moody english teacher when the crowd shout too many things at him[/quote']Steve Wilson is a twat I remember when the porkies played the Lemon Tree in 97, I thought he was a really bad frontman and he just isnt good with the crowd at all. He's very arrogant,one of the reasons I've not been bothered to see PT since. Mind you some of that attitude PT probably learned when they supported Marillion as its similar to Hogarths annoying stage persona. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Mr Hog' date=' want to give Wes a guitar lessonYou were meant to text me today sexy lad.Strapping Young Lads new album is amazing!CheersStuart[/quote']Aye Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer_eldritch Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I love Porcupine Tree. Would've really liked to go to this gig but things didn't work out. Bugger. How were PT anyway? They play mainly stuff from their most recent album?Haven't seen them live, so dont know about Steve Wilson being a twat. I can imagine it though, with his voice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I love Porcupine Tree. Would've really liked to go to this gig but things didn't work out. Bugger. How were PT anyway? They play mainly stuff from their most recent album?Haven't seen them live' date=' so dont know about Steve Wilson being a twat. I can imagine it though, with his voice...[/quote']they were really good, they played a lot off the new album, 3 tracks from In Absentia and a lot of the older stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeenat Aman Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I saw PT at the Lemon Tree, round about 1997/98? The music did nothing for me I'm afraid, cold and sterile. All the black t-shirt clad 30 somethings seemed to love it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I saw PT at the Lemon Tree' date=' round about 1997/98? The music did nothing for me I'm afraid, cold and sterile. All the black t-shirt clad 30 somethings seemed to love it though.[/quote']Totally agree Phillip, it was 97, the same year Wilson destroyed Fish's 'Sunsets on Empire'. I also feel that PT are very sterile, I've never understood peoples fascination with them. CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer_eldritch Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 MY favourite of their albums is Signify (from what i've heard of them so far). I really don't hear it as sterile at all. It's really refreshing for me to hear some modern day prog rock. The track "Idiot's Prayer" (i think) is just totally awesome, and theres really nothing sterile abou it.They do have the occassional let down of a track, i admit, and theres something about the lead guitar sound which is a bit off for me. Not sure what it is yet. But I think your being fairly harsh about them though. They are an original sounding band imho. You have to give them that - Steve Wilsons personality aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 MY favourite of their albums is Signify (from what i've heard of them so far). I really don't hear it as sterile at all. It's really refreshing for me to hear some modern day prog rock. The track "Idiot's Prayer" (i think) is just totally awesome' date=' and theres really nothing sterile abou it.They do have the occassional let down of a track, i admit, and theres something about the lead guitar sound which is a bit off for me. Not sure what it is yet. But I think your being fairly harsh about them though. They are an original sounding band imho. You have to give them that - Steve Wilsons personality aside.[/quote']See I dont think they are that original soundwise, they're just truing to do Pink Floyd style stuff mixed with the occasional interesting beat. I think PT sound very, very retro, you have to remember Richard Barbeiri from Japan is the other creative force behind PT so you're finding its a mix of Floyd and Japan. I've never ever managed to get into PT i've tried to find something interesting about them, but nope, i do think it very sterile, its something about the way Wilson plays guitar (the Fish album he plays guitar on suffersfrom the same sterility), I was hoping that he might leave some more guitar work on the album to Wes in order to try and give it more life.CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Only heard 1 PT song so I can treally comment but Anathema are ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer_eldritch Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 See I dont think they are that original soundwise' date=' they're just truing to do Pink Floyd style stuff mixed with the occasional interesting beat. I think PT sound very, very retro, you have to remember Richard Barbeiri from Japan is the other creative force behind PT so you're finding its a mix of Floyd and Japan. I've never ever managed to get into PT i've tried to find something interesting about them, but nope, i do think it very sterile, its something about the way Wilson plays guitar (the Fish album he plays guitar on suffersfrom the same sterility), I was hoping that he might leave some more guitar work on the album to Wes in order to try and give it more life.CheersStuart[/quote']Maybe its the Pink Floyd aspect of PT that appeals to me so much. On "Absentia" i do notice a lot of Tool style songs also...Sometimes, i have to say, Wilson's singing isnt particularly great either, though i do actually like his guitar playing, just not so keen on his guitar tone. He maybe overdoes the wah a bit at times.However, i'm a big fan of middle-eastern - esq songs with a modern touch, and Porcupine Tree do that pretty excellently for me. Tho Steve Hillage does it far better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 See I dont think they are that original soundwise' date=' they're just truing to do Pink Floyd style stuff mixed with the occasional interesting beat. I think PT sound very, very retro, you have to remember Richard Barbeiri from Japan is the other creative force behind PT so you're finding its a mix of Floyd and Japan. I've never ever managed to get into PT i've tried to find something interesting about them, but nope, i do think it very sterile, its something about the way Wilson plays guitar (the Fish album he plays guitar on suffersfrom the same sterility), I was hoping that he might leave some more guitar work on the album to Wes in order to try and give it more life.CheersStuart[/quote']the past two albums havn't had the floyd style at all. and i think he is a fantastic producer (made a fantastic job of opeth's last three albums) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 the past two albums havn't had the floyd style at all. and i think he is a fantastic producer (made a fantastic job of opeth's last three albums)I've never heard Opeth but his production work on Fish's stuff and Marillion's stuff is the worst production those bands have ever had. I wouldnt let him near anything if i was choosing a producer.On another note it was good tat Anathema didnt turn up witht he string quarttet they broaght when they supported steve Wilsons Blackfield poject, I was hearing some funny stories about them, their idea of an unplugged gig is to play sitting down apparently.CheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I've never heard Opeth Thats cos you refused to listen to them when I sent you a song on msn 8o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Thats cos you refused to listen to them when I sent you a song on msn 8oWHAT?!jesus..refusing to listen to opeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted April 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 WHAT?!jesus..refusing to listen to opeth i really love you somtimes........other times i rember you are still that short manics fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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