Thanks Ben. That band with the torrid experience would have been us. Under 18's allowed with an adult? My arse, none of our mates, with our without parents, were allowed in. And what's this about under 18's musicians allowed in if they do not drink etc? You guys did your best to chuck us out, had it not been for our good friend Chris - from Marble George, that night - and our 20 year old guitarist you guys would have had us out on our arses. After that shocking show, we shall not be rushing back there.