Lexicon Devil

Simple, Answer to all of your problems. iRiver H320. around 220 20hb storage. Plays videos, Displays pictures, Colour Screen, stock with sennheiser headphones, Drag and drop loading format, Acts as USB hub for certian digital cameras, Radio tuner, Plays a few formats including WAV WMA MP3 and OGG, 16 hour battery life, create your own filetree system or download a database feature, Recording feature with internal and external mics, line in and line out Displays text files, 16 hour batterie Life, Upgradeable Firmware, Direct MP3 encoding ( i think you can attach to a cd player and real-time convert it to an mp3 on the player. Surround Sound Simluation, EQ options.....i could go on and on, this player is really really good, the sound quality is so much better than I-pod/Zen etc......do yourself a favour, look into this before other players. Check it out on amazon.

Also watch out, if you ripped your cds in WMP then they may be protected and will not play on most players.

Folly? That is just where you're missing the point. A drummer doesnt have to play 300bpm blastbeats or a Buddy-style jazz solo for it to be a great drum track. Displaying mind-boggling technique is just one ingredient to a great piece of drumming' date=' and while it's a fair point to say that pop songs dont often lend themselves to that kind of drumming, there are hundreds of examples of pop tracks where someone has used a basic groove in an interesting way, and made it into a classic track. It's not fancy or flash, but it IS a great piece of drumming.[/quote']

But do remember, we are discussing "amazing" drumming, I guess its all personal preference. I, of course, enjoy plenty of tracks layed down. "Its not about what you play its what you don't." - wise words. But seeing as i beleived we were dicussing amazing drumming, I personally do not find in general, a lot of pop-drumming to be amazing. Hell, thomas lang played with B*Witched hes amazing but noty for the tracks he l;aiod down with them. Hes not the grooviest of players. I was not denying them being good drum tracks. But they do not amaze me too frequently. I think we were lookng at it from 2 diffrent angles.

Are you saying there has never been any amazing drumming in pop music?

No. Hence my explaining that the trends were not to have been amazing.

I mean, take sting, Colaiuta is a beast. Thats amazing. But I feel that to be exceptional.,

And no' date=' jazz and metal are not where amazing drumming is at......you can see incredible playing across every musical genre, without exception.[/quote']

Incredible playing yes, but......A lot of the great drummers of today, whether it be a technical superstar like Thomas Lang and Minneman. Or a complete groove-orientated guy Like Weckl Portnoy, Porcaro or Colaiuta they tend to be foundin one or two pockets of music.

I am not attempting to be biased here, but in certain genres (not in all cases) it is the trend, that perhaps say in progressive rock, there will be far more scope for more interesting, technical, and groovy beats. In black metal we can see 300bpm 16ths on the feet. In swing interesting ride patterns are often found. Or nice half-time shuffles in some country.

All of these are amazing pieces of playing, and I have many influences, but i think its folly to say that there is amazing drumming across every genre, as often, say in a pop-tune, a session musician will just be asked to lay down, a simple, solid 4/4 groove. This fits with the song, and is all that is required, BUT is not amazing.

Looking for a new singer/screamer since our old one left.

Metal band, ages around 14-18. Original material.

Many influences, from such amazing bands as In flames to Children of Bodom.

Bassist would be nice too,

Im trying to be quite vague here, so don't worry its all deliberate...nothing worse than seeing an influence listed that your not into.

Regular Practices On Mondays Eve.

Shoot me a PM or reply if yer' interested.

Cheers.

Jeg Er Det Labyrint

if money was no object' date=' theres no competition, orange county drums [/quote']

Blasphemy, Have you seen their sub-standard wraps. You want to go with some Sonors, Yamahas or maybe Pearl if you want top-end