Stripey

For an art form that is entirely subjective there seems to be no shortage of high priests telling us whats bad for us and what and how to think.

If it's entirely subjective then people have the right to say they think something is shit too, I don't think anyone is trying to tell people what they should and shouldnt listen to.

Look at these. What's the recurring theme?

Awful design?

It seems the main criteria for a "band logo" are use of tacky photoshop effects, cheesy fonts, horrible colours and lack of anti-aliasing. Oh and of course if the band is anything to do with metal, usual some crappy flame effect, skulls and an undreadable "font". Who would have though musicians would have such a terrible sense of visual aesthetics?

also use it on the lowest hob you have on the lowest setting, if you have the heat too high it will work too quickly and become bitter. It should take about 8-10 minutes to finish, just turn it off once it starts making gurgling noises.

ah, that was a waste of 10 mins and energy.

yes it was.

I liked the fact that Peel played Stripey's music all the time....

oh, hold on...he didn't, that must mean he thouhght he was shit too?

Actually he played loads of stuff I liked, a highlight of which was FSOL doing one of the first live shows streamed over the internet on his show...

anyway if you are seriously suggesting john peel would have loved amy winehouse, jamie cullum and james blunt etc, personally I think you're quite wrong.

I love people who know what other people think - even when they are dead. amazing.

oh, the irony.

unless...of course....you are all fantastic, well respected musicians and producers with a "john peel like" appreciation for ALL TYPES OF MUSIC....

Just out of interest, did john peel play a lot of manufactured mainstream pop music? Was he keen on the spice girls and so on?

no...didn't think so.

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brilliant, turnkey absolutely deserved to fold, I don't know anyone who's had a positive experience with them.

4OD is actually the best thing in the world, they've pretty much got everything good that's ever been on channel 4.

Or you could just download everything for free at a higher quality.

how the fuck would anyone know if she's "real" or not...

well she did go to stage school along with the likes of lily allen, to be taught how to become a performing monkey. You know, the british equivalent of the Mickey Mouse club in america that produced such "real artists" as britney spears, justin timberlake and christina aguilera...

I thought that was a bad place to keep it?

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"Simply put, Never ever, unless you are conducting a science experiment on how long it takes to ruin perfectly good coffee. The fridge is one of the absolute worst places to put coffee. The reasons why not to freeze fresh roasted coffee also apply here."

in my experience, I find it stays fresher for longer in a sealed container in the fridge rather than in an opaque kilner jar out of the fridge (where I used to keep it). I use it all up within a week to 10 days usually anyway.

it can be quite tricky getting through a bag of ground coffee before it goes stale.

I usually buy freshly ground in small quantities, like 150g's or so and keep it in the fridge for freshness.

Stripey, "I'm not telling anyone how to live their lives" - technically not, just the way that they are is pointless. Over, and over, and over again. They should follow your positive example! listen to your releases, go to the night you've put on, go see the examples of good shit you've brought up, go see you play, help you support the few decent things going on.

Oh, wait a second.

Twerp.

Oh I see, so I'm not allowed to have an opinion unless I'm actively supporting the local scene now?

If you people can't tolerate a difference of opinion without resorting to name calling, or suggestions that I'm telling people how to live their lives, then the internet probably isn't for you.

ok, that's fair enough - if you feel watching a band is somehow a nostlgic, reassuring action & hearing a DJ playing un-heard new is a new, progressive action then you're entitled to that opinion as much as anyone is entitled to go see Radiohead.

No, I feel that paying over the odds to see a mainstream band you've heard millions of times before perform their reportoire seems utterly pointless, as I said in my inital post.

I'd rather broaden my horizons and hear something fresh than line the pockets of people like radiohead. But of course, as you say, people are entitled to do what they like.

Out of curiosity' date=' how do you find out the tracks played by the DJ? Is the act of listening to them in a club enough or do you need to obtain these tracks and listen to them at home or wheerever? [/quote']

Well these days people usually put archives of sets online, or at the least a tracklist.

well, what are you saying?

i'm trying to understand here - what's so objectionable about seeing a band play live but paying to hear a DJ play isn't?

is it the thought of hearing "new" music? the thought of staying ahead of the game? do you object to bands playing mammoth tours supporting an album that could be a couple of years old?

do you not watch bands at all (and I don't just mean "rock" bands here)?

i'm trying to drag the post back from it's descent into the ever-expected name calling here....

The "point" is hearing music you haven't heard before and otherwise wouldn't know about or have access to. It's as simple as that.

And no, I don't really watch live music.

You sound like such a good laugh Stripey.

Bet your the "life and soul" of any party and chicks totally dig your dub chat.

Your ideas and opinions are so spiteful, bitter and negative... not to mention totally flawed.

You talk alot of shit and need to cheer up.

Hey if you don't have anything meaningful to say, don't bother posting.

so, what you are effectively saying is that you pay money to hear someone dictate your musical taste?

No, that's not what I'm saying atall actually.

So you would only pay to see (hear?) a DJ that you though wasn't shit?

Your whole concept of what a DJ does is totally skewed.

I would pay to go to a club night with a good DJ that's likely to drop some fresh dubs and knows how to mix. I wouldn't pay 25+ quid to "see" someone like q-bert though.

But surely the fact remains that seeing a DJ - any DJ - is comparable in a sense to watching a band.

In fact' date=' that raises the question as to whether watching a DJ is comparable to watching a covers band - are both not playing other peoples material?

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No, it isn't comparable atall. Nobody goes to "see" or "watch" a DJ. Yes, they play other peoples tracks (oh no!), but part of the appeal of a good DJ (for me anyway) is their access to dubs, they are helping people discover new music. Otherwise you can wait 6 months or a year or whatever before the tunes come out in the shops and people at the bottom of the foodchain start playing them out.

How does this compare to DJs then? are you even more gullible for paying money to go into a club to see some faceless individual play a CD that he probably bought in Asda?

Oh I certainly wouldn't pay to listen to someone shit like that (i.e "DJs" like Dave at exodus).

You are such a cunt Stripey. Who are you to tell other people how they should live their lives? Nobody wants you on this forum, you contribute nothing but negative responses to just about everything, why dont you just fuck off, eh? Hateful, arrogant little man.

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this is a discussion forum, not a radiohead fanclub. I'm not telling anyone how to live their lives, that is just the usual reaction of insecure people who cannot tolerate a difference of opinion. You might even come to understand that yourself one day, when you grow up.

There's a whole world out there Stripey

Yeah you should try exploring it, if you can break away from your slavish pavlovian responses to mainstream popular culture and begin to think.

the muslims get what they want, again.

That's because unlike the complacent, passive and unconcerned "natives" of this country they are actually willing to stand up for their rights in the face of massive prejudices. So I suppose in this way they are more british than a lot of us who were born and bred here.

i don't idolise thom yorke, i like his music. i'm quite sure its the same about anyone else who went to this gig.

I fail to see the appeal in paying extortionate sums of money to watch someone play a song you've heard endless times before on a cd you can probably buy in asda. Unless of course you idolise the band and think that seeing them perform live somehow brings you closer to them, or think that in 50 years time you'll tell your grandkids "i saw radiohead live in 08".

a pub or club isn't "indoors", and this isn't the fucking 1920's.

I don't see why any venue would demand something like this, particularly when cctv on the door will presumably capture the faces and general dress of anyone who is coming in. Surely if you have a hat on, it's going to make it easier to identify you later on in the tape if need be?

sounds like a totally pointless and expensive outing to me, although I suppose if you're the kind of gullible loser that idolises people like tom yorke you probably deserve to be ripped off for every penny you have anyway.

I'd be interested in seeing what your hair is like, if it's so bad that you HAVE to wear a hat in a club. Surely it can't be that bad.........

since when did it become normal to take your hat off in a club?