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Tickets on sale from ticketweb tomorrow at 9am and will be available in one up from the end of next week hopefully

Kris Roe will be there on his own accompanied by an acoustic guitar and probably a laptop. Most likely the gig will be split in two halfs. 1st half - Blue Skies played in full from start to finish 2nd half - He'll play tracks from So Long Astoria and other Ataris classics. Most dates are getting Blue Skies in full with some gettin So Long Astoria in full but imo we're getting the better deal

This will be happenin 11th March 2009. Who fancies this one? Poster and details to follow soon!

Along with acts like Jason Mraz, take That and Boys Like Girls. Well done lads!!!

Taken off Punktastic.com forums as posted by one of the guys from Shadows Chasing Ghosts

Beat Generator Promotions put on gigs most friday and/or saturday nights with many a good touring band playing there and one or two local bands supporting. A similar thing is what I was thinking about doing but obviously down here in the central belt cos it would be hard to do it up the road. 14+ gigs with strict curfews, police aware of when and where the gig is and can gauge if it's allowing for more or less trouble to control and whether it's a good idea to keep up. Google The Ark in Ayr and have a squint at their site

Thanks man. Only one problem...Living in Glasgow these days lol

Cheers for the input man. Much appreciated. I'll look into what you've suggested

I'm currently trying to draw up some sort of plan that I can take to certain people but I thought a few more people would've been supportive of such an idea but it appears not

This is very true and something that's often requested by bands. It all comes down to the demographic of a bands audience. Indie bands are so much easier to promote to an older audience than hardcore bands. I'm more a fan of alternative music and so the demographic I'm aiming most of my gigs at are going to be younger people with the occasional older audience member (say 1 in 10). In the case of LOTP, aren't they all about 17? This point I'm trying to make is not about me or who I promote or who I promote it to but more a personal opinion of mine that I find it more and more unacceptable that kids are being driven out of going to gigs at weekends (unless it's a bigger band playing Moshulu/Lemon Tree or Music Hall) when they have the most free time on their hands. I think it's up to more people who have the knowledge to help create gigs and events that cater for a younger audience to take them off the streets and do something useful with their time rather than hang about corners harassing people.

I'm intrigued by what Cloud said to. Do explain.

Sounds like a good idea. Maybe I will. Will have to wait til they get a new singer first though.

I'm not disputing this fact. Most touring bands do get 14+ gigs but come fridays/saturdays and I (for example) phone up a venue asking for a date and get told it's 18+ at weekends then it makes it a lot harder to get a specific band to play in that city unless they play on a sunday-thursday night but this ultimately affects attendances due to school/work, buses home etc and then even if the gig does get booked the band have less people to play in front of and punters miss out cos they can't make the gig. Said band then get a bit more recognised and come back to play somewhere like Moshulu and the punter then pays double the price they would've paid to see the same band at Drummonds and all those stories we have about seeing whatever band it is in Lava/Kef/East Neuk/Drummonds etc can't be said because they weren't allowed in or couldn't make it. I'm probably waffling a lot now and I'll admit that but it's an issue I'd like to address at some point in the future and if anyone wants to help me then please PM your details and ideas.

Your feedback wasn't about the artist in question but who and what I promote. Stick to the thread topic if you can

Yeah but I've heard it all before about money etc. Fuck me, it mentions in this very thread about Stayover having a residency at The Moorings. This would never have been possible in my opinion had it been an 18+ policy. Put yourself in the shoes of a 15/16/17 year old and your favourite band is coming to town but yet you can't go cos it's an 18+ gig and you can't afford to travel to the closest city to see them. It's a bit shit in my opinion.

So why bother putting posters in each others establishments etc to apparently "help the scene" but stifle the scene by having 18+ gigs?!

Good man!

The Moorings runs more as a pub with one gig a week more than a music venue. I know you used to do a 14+ or 16+ policy until you found people had sneaked in bottles of vodka etc into your premises. Bags checks are simple things to do and even then if you find someone going in, out, in, out all night you must suspect they are going out to drink in the lane or whatever so if you see them in a state you are quite within your right to refuse them entry. My gripe isn't really with The Moorings though it's just music venues (not pubs) in general that are more and more only allowing 18+ events on friday and saturday nights. I think somewhere like the Lemon Tree for being a community conscious place should take on the task of providing gigs for underagers to attend at weekends. Could quite easily be a Saturday matinee or tea time gig, which doesn't prevent another 18+ gig or club night happening in the evening.

The youth of Aberdeen is where things should now be aimed at. Places having over 18s policies does nobody any favours. Yes I realise everyone has a business to run but more and more local youngsters are being pushed out the door, especially on weekends when this is the time of the week they have more time and money than the rest. School nights quickly affect gig attendance as does transport home, take the risk of these factors away i.e. allowed to attend gigs on weekends and they're more likely to go. This is a situation happening in most cities just now not just Aberdeen. In my opinion something has to be done. I'm not suggesting all pubs open their doors to unders but at least have somewhere like a town hall or Lemon Tree type venue that is willing to help out and take them off the streets

I have never once put on an all local line-up in Drummonds or anywhere else for that matter. Who I choose to book is up to me and who I work with, not you. I always cater for my own music tastes within reason because if all I ever did was put on bands I like then I'd probably never make any money out of it but once in a while I'm quite entitled to follow the buck and book someone outwith my comfort zone who I think will make me some money, especially in today's credit crunch climate. Makin money on some shows allows me to put on bands I feel really strongly about and want to help reach a bigger/wider audience than what they might be used to. DF started out doing something they were passionate about back in the day until they grew a lot bigger. I'm gonna stop now cos I shouldn't feel the need to explain myself to you or anyone else.

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Business perhaps? I'm sure DF or whoever doesn't like every band they ever put on but they know what sells tickets and makes money

Yip, sure is!

Possibly booking him for Glasgow. Depends on circumstances. I think the guy is atrocious but people seem to like him

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