soundian

I bet he's on a pilgramge to still No. 7, Kentucky.

Always, always, ALWAYS check any piece of equipment with the word PRO in the title. Most of it is very unprofessional. Behringer are cheap and cheerful, make sure you know what you're getting before you buy.

Mmm. I wasn't holding out much hope for it being a short-cut, but still ,that's only one person, anyone else tried it?

Just read the link. Well, skimmed actually. It says pretty much what I'm saying. Fine tuning is subjective, and in my opinion dependent on key, but with such a crude method as fretting a guitar, you have to compromise. If your gonna play a fretted instrument, you can't be too fussy about the tuning. Still don't see what short-octave means though. p.s. 440 Hz

I know there's a lot of different tunings to make up for the slight difference in perception. Shit, one of my mates had an awesome electric piano which gave you at least 8 different tuning options. Guitar frets can't be moved so relying on the harmonics (which are completeley dependent on string ratio, not on fret distance) rather than fretted tuning would seem like a fair compromise (IF your intonation is right). Now I'll go and check the link you posted and either come back and eat my words, or ask for an interpreter.

I still want to know what this 'short octave tuning' is. Anyone shed any light on this. And don't suggest short scale cos i'll just laugh, I remember enough wave theory!

What's that?

Interesting. I wonder if it works? It could be a good way of getting a basic sound out of someone else's amp quickly. Do any of you guitar types want to try that and let me know.

I just hope some of our younger viewers aren't getting the impression that there's only one way to EQ. Shit, if that's true why don't we all superglue the pots right now. It depends on the GUITAR, CABINET AND ROOM. The reason people give you shit to play with is so you can use those big flappy things on the side of your head to judge wether it suits these criteria. Sorry guys, just been listening to some extremely bad guitar sounds. You know the sort: combine harvester shred levels played through a tin can attached to the PA with a piece of string and a special tin can-XLR adaptor.

I thought that's what you meant. It would have been easier to understand if you'd said 'master volume at full ( through an attenuator)' or something like that. Or maybe I'm just thick and it was perfectly understandable your way. Note for the confused: there is no point in using an attenuator if the output stage of your amp isn't valve. Just attenuate the signal using the in-built attenuator (master volume).

I'm confused. It sounds as if you're using the attenuator in-line between your guitar and amp.?(

Nah, they run on DC.

You'd better get someone who really knows what they're doing then. The only way I can see of doing it is by removing the fretboard, drilling holes for the LEDs and routing channels for the cables. Once that's all back together you would have to rout an additional hole for the battery and a switch on the body of the guitar.

If you do mean 78 rpm then you're going to have to look hard. If you do mean 45 rpm then any bog standard record deck will do the trick. What people pay hundreds of pounds for is direct drive decks (it works on magnatic induction rather than physical contact). Great for mixing, superfluous for listening to vinyl at home.

Boiling them in ethanol is supposed to make the tone change last longer but if I can't be fucked trying the boiling water technique I'm never going to try the highly dangerous form.

You've got so many stickys it's really easy to miss any 'normal' threads.

I knew I was being too nice to bands recently, not even a nomination for 'Most miserable'. The last two are mine also I think.

Words of wisdom. The best melodies are always the ones that stick in your head for days (or weeks). I think being a musician at least means you have the ability to transform what's in your head into music. It's probably the major difference between a 'musician' and 'someone who can play a bit'.

Don't you mean 'someone forgot to put a fag out'.

I was thinking along the lines of learning how to use the beastie with pink noise. Mostly as a backup cos I've noticed recently that I hear differently when I'm tired. It would be good to have a check. Of course I would need to get a spectrum analyser as well so it's probably not gonna happen.

I've never heard Behringer mics but I'm surprised that you rate them considering most of their equipment is 'cheap'n'cheerful'. Mind you, I have had one engineer say that he's A/B'ed Behringers reference mic with several others and the small difference is not worth the extra 500+ quid. Anyone ever used one of these cos 350 for a reference mic is feckin cheap and I'm tempted.

Oh well, looks like my particular brand of irony/sarcasm will be missing from this debate. Not to worry , it's only a bit of fun after all. Unless the fudge guys let me hear all the tracks before and I can at least give negative votes. AYE MIN, AT SONGS NAE EES, AT'LL NEVER APPEAL TAE THI KIDZ. (That was my tribute to the ongoing, on-line love affair between Zombie and Stripey)

I have work at 6 on the 2nd. Don't suppose it matters too much though.

Drummonds might be a possibility this Sunday cos the jazzers don't turn up til about 8 and it has the essentials (beer and a CD player). We wouldn't be able to crank it up though but that shouldn't matter too much since it's the songs we're meant to be judging. I shall enquire.

Neumanns. Yum. We've got to stop agreeing like this Badger, people will talk.