haha it doesnt matter ...The No Pints have 8 gigs left for anyone that cares...they shall be: 22/7: @ Drakes as you now all know 28/7: @ Hull, Ringside w/Swordface 29/7: @ Goole, The Old George w/the dangerfields, w.o.r.m, shuriken and the dregs 30/7: @ Leeds, The Packhorse w/the dregs, shuriken and die for 31/7: @ Falkirk, Jacks Bar w/The dregs, shuriken and the declined 1/8: @ Newport on Tay, Rios w/shuriken and 3 times round 20/8: @ Kef w/broken sunshine + more 9/9: @ Drakes w/groovie ghoulies, the dangerfields and karloff (what a way to end it!) hopefully by thursday we shall have beautiful, black badges for people to wear with pride...altho we havent practised in a month so if we're awful, maybe no one will want any